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I've been thinking (x-post from gaybroteens)

2013.06.24 08:00 TheBlazingAugust I've been thinking (x-post from gaybroteens)

Well, I mainly wrote this to what should be a teen audience (as a teen myself) over at /gaybroteens about some things I've observed lately, and my personal thoughts on them, so although I'm a little nervous about the larger audience, I'm putting this out there in original form. It may end up offending some, but I actually could care less, so let it fly with your opinions on this. Also, it will probably be obvious when reading this that I'm not a person to mince words for fear of a few taking offence, although I'm not trying to be an ass, just put out an honest observation, which may or may not be correct to each individual.
Lol, it can be quite dangerous when I think on heavy things, and it's best for me to get my thoughts out immediately before I second guess them. Be forewarned, this will be long winded, but I need to get in essay mode for an English final tomorrow morning.
Ok, so there have been two 'problems' I've noticed lately. The first is that many are saying that this sub is too quiet (referring to /gaybroteens, remember, this was originally written to the members of thst sub). The second is the turmoil going over at the parent of this sub, /gaybros. I'll address the second first. The main issue I've seen over at /gaybros lately is over the whole 'gaybro stereotype', and the many sides of it. Regardless of what people say, I think stereotypes are true to an extent, as they are used to describe a particular visible character set, such as the whole 'bro' stereotype, which is in itself a distinguishable personality set (fratish type, enjoys sports, beer, hanging with dudes, and in gaybros, banging dudes instead of chicks). The issue arises when this stereotype (used in the essence of a set character type) becomes an actual stereotype - something used as a blanket statement, claiming that all members follow the same characteristics. The issue I've been seeing is a growing division between the gaybro 'purists', those who don't deny they fall under the general bro character type and don't care, with just the plus of being gay, and the 'liberals' (I lack a better term, and as a Canadian, I think that's an American government party, but if so, I don't mean to draw a connection), who think there are no true stereotypes, and everything is a large spectrum of characteristics too blended (or a continuous spectrum) to be grouped together. In light of this, these 'liberals', many of which don't seem to fit under the bro character, are getting annoyed that the 'purists' say they don't belong in the thread, due to the lack of bro characteristics. The liberals, however say that it doesn't matter and they'll go were they please and refuse to perpetuate stereotypes, which seem so prevalent.
Up until now, I've pondered as to why the gay community had so many stereotypes, many of which are based on physical appearances: twink, hunk, jock, bear, otter, top, bottom, vers, etc. Keep in mind this is my personal opinion, so you're free to disagree in a proper manner. ;) Anyways, I think one of the reasons for this is homosexuality (im using this to refer to man on man relations) in itself. In a heterosexual relationship, you don't have to guess who will be the 'top' (penetrator) and who will be the 'bottom' (receiver). When you have a man and a woman, most of the sex will be straight and simple vaginal sex. The only compatibility straight couples really have to deal with is personality, as I rarely hear about straight couples complaining about sexual compatibility. Now, we move to the homosexual, male to male side of things, and a whole new world opens up. Now because both partners can give and receive, the whole system is less rigid, which is why I feel these stereotypes rise up. You never really have to guess who was the receiver in a heterosexual relationship. In addition, a lot of homosexual (gay, man on man, I'm pretty much just referring to men in this whole post) relationships depend on sexual compatibility, which is why I think people have found the need of classifying it. If two men sexually prefer only being tops, and this case has unravelled many times over, more often then not, that relationship doesn't work out. So in a way of trying to sort this all out, gay men start labelling their sexuality, which in a way is pretty hard to define at times, which leads to many 'in between' people classifying or being classified in a group in which they don't fully associate, claiming these stereotypes as petty, rigid, and being sexist in a way, ignoring that there are many who comfortably sit within a stereotype, which brings me back to /gaybros and the (gay) men there just looking to find some other (gay) friends who want to drink a beer and watch sports, while some people who may not be entirely bro or not bro at all complain about them being exclusive.
Now that I mentioned that, I want to mention this sub. Since these 'stereotypes' really do seem crucial to many gays (I'm sure as hell not denying there are those who aren't really defined by one group), is the reason this sub isn't that active because some gay teens out there know of the bro stereotype, and think they won't fit in? In honesty, I've seen nothing bro about this sub, and many discussions aren't that different from /lgbteens. Do any of you teens associate with the bro character set, or did you come here for the gay (male) teens aspect of it? Do you think a simple gayteen (male only) sub would attract more people, or is this sub really meant and used by those teens who consider themselves 'bro'.
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2013.06.24 06:45 TheBlazingAugust I've been thinking. . .

Lol, it can be quite dangerous when I think on heavy things, amd it's best for me to get my thoughts out immediately before I second guess them. Be forewarned, this will be long winded, but I need to get in essay mode for an English final tomorrow morning.
Ok, so there have been two 'problems' I've noticed lately. The first is that many are saying that this sub is too quiet. The second is the turmoil going over at the parent of this sub, /gaybros. I'll address the second first. The main issue I've seen over at /gaybros lately is over the whole 'gaybro stereotype', and the many sides of it. Regardless of what people say, stereotypes are true to an extent, as they are used to describe a particular visible character set, such as the whole 'bro' stereotype, which is in itself a distinguishable personality set (fratish type, enjoys sports, beer, hanging with dudes, and in gaybros, banging dudes instead of chicks). The issue arises when this stereotype (used in the essence of a set character type) becomes an actual stereotype - something used as a blanket statement. The issue I've been seeing is a growing division between the gaybro 'purists', those who don't deny they fall under the general bro character type and don't care, with just the plus of being gay, and the 'liberals' (I lack a better term, and as a Canadian, I think that's an American government party, but if so, I don't mean to draw a connection), who think there are no true stereotypes, and everything is a large spectrum of characteristics too blended (or a continuous spectrum) to be grouped together. In light of this, these 'liberals', many of which don't fit under the bro character, are getting annoyed that the 'purists' say they don't belong in the thread, due to the lack of bro characteristics. The liberals, however say that it doesn't matter and they'll go were they please and refuse to perpetuate stereotypes, which seem so prevalent.
Up until now, I've pondered as to why the gay community had so many stereotypes, many of which are based on physical appearances: twink, hunk, jock, bear, otter, top, bottom, vers, etc. Keep in mind this is my personal opinion, so you're free to disagree in a proper manner. ;) Anyways, I think one of the reasons for this is homosexuality (im using this to refer to man on man relations) in itself. In a heterosexual relationship, you don't have to guess who will be the 'top' (penetrator) and who will be the 'bottom' (receiver). When you have a man and a woman, most of the sex will be straight and simple vaginal sex. The only compatibility straight couples really have to deal with is personality, as I rarely hear about straight couples complaining about sexual compatibility. Now, we move to the homosexual, male to male side of things, and a whole new world opens up. Now because both partners can give and receive, the whole system is less rigid, which is why I feel these stereotypes rise up. You never really have to guess who was the receiver in a heterosexual relationship. In addition, a lot of homosexual (gay, man on man, I'm pretty much just referring to men in this whole post) relationships depend on sexual compatibility, which is why I think people have found the need of classifying it. If two men sexually prefer only being tops, and this case has unravelled many times over, more often then not, that relationship doesn't work out. So in a way of trying to sort this all out, gay men start labelling their sexuality, which in a way is pretty hard to define at times, which leads to many 'in between' people classifying or being classified in a group in which they don't fully associate, claiming these stereotypes as petty, rigid, and being sexist in a way, ignoring that there are many who comfortably sit within a stereotype, which brings me back to /gaybros and the (gay) men there just looking to find some other (gay) friends who want to drink a beer and watch sports, while some people who may not be entirely bro or not bro at all complain about them being exclusive.
Now that I mentioned that, I want to mention this sub. Since these 'stereotypes' really do seem crucial to many gays (I'm sure as hell not denying there are those who aren't really defined by one group), is the reason this sub isn't that active because some gay teens out there know of the bro stereotype, and think they won't fit in? In honesty, I've seen nothing bro about this sub, and many discussions aren't that different from /lgbteens. Do any of you teens associate with the bro character set, or did you come here for the gay (male) teens aspect of it? Do you think a simple gayteen (male only) sub would attract more people, or is this sub really meant and used by those teens who consider themselves 'bro'.
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