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[OC] On this day 100 years ago, the first game involving an APFA/NFL team took place as the Rock Island Independents defeated the non-league St. Paul Ideals 48–0.

2020.09.26 19:41 ZappaOMatic [OC] On this day 100 years ago, the first game involving an APFA/NFL team took place as the Rock Island Independents defeated the non-league St. Paul Ideals 48–0.

Last Thursday was the 100-year anniversary of the meeting between the representatives of ten teams that would ultimately form the National Football League. My write-up on that historic meeting turned out to be a massive hit, and I'm back with yet another centennial anniversary post. This time, we go from the car showroom to the football field.
100 years ago on September 26, 1920, a team took to the gridiron as a member of the NFL—then known as the American Professional Football Association—for the first time. While it was not a "true" league game as their opponent was not part of the APFA, it marked the start of something big.

The Rock Island Independents

Take a wild guess as to how the Rock Island Independents got their name.
For the first two decades of its existence, the Illinois-based team took on opponents regardless of league affiliation. Walter Flanigan joined the Independents as a player in 1912 before taking over as manager three years later. As the team racked up wins, Flanigan wanted to take his club to a higher level, and he gained that opportunity in 1917 when he challenged the Minneapolis Marines, the self-proclaimed "North West Pro Champs", to a game on Rock Island's home turf. A team record 6,425 fans turned out for the game, though they would fall to the Marines 7–3 (a rematch resulted in a more lopsided defeat of 33–14).[1]
After being shipped off to serve in World War I, Flanigan returned to the football world by cobbling together a slate of local games (all of which were shutout wins for the Independents). In 1919, he set his eyes on the national championship.[1]
As discussed in the last post, there was no "true" national champion as there was no national sanctioning body at the time. A team could win every game in their regional league and declare themselves the national champs without much objection, and that was what many teams did. Since the Independents were, well, independent, Flanigan had another idea to pursue the national title: take on league teams.
To do this, he recruited Minneapolis star quarterback Rube Ursella to his side, and a variety of Marines including local fullback Jerry Mansfield also joined the Independents. However, Flanigan's recruiting may have been too successful as a laundry list of interested players showed up; to weed out the scrubs, he organized a series of foot races and wrestling matches in which the losers were kicked off the team. Once he had a suitable roster, he got to work.[1]
The 1919 Independents would face a challenging slate against the top teams from Ohio and Indiana, including future NFL franchises Columbus Panhandles and Akron Indians. With the exception of a 12–7 defeat at the hands of the Hammond All-Stars, a team that featured an end by the name of George Halas, and a scoreless tie against a decorated Pine Village team, Rock Island would shut out every opponent.[1]

The Bulldog "Beef"

At season's end, the Independents boasted a 9–1–1 record, but Flanigan had one last game on his mind: a date with the undefeated Canton Bulldogs for the national championship on December 7.[1]
Well, Canton star Jim Thorpe said his team had other plans. Like, that was basically what his answer was.
On November 30, Ralph Hay, leader of the Bulldogs, sent a telegram to Flanigan asking what the Independents would offer in exchange for playing the game. A Rock Island fan had attended Canton's win over Hammond the previous week and was promised by the Bulldogs manager that he would consider a game against the Bulldogs as long as the Massillon Tigers beat the Cleveland Tigers (since Massillon had lost to Canton twice earlier in the season).[2]
Massillon won and Hay kept his promise by reaching out to Flanigan, who offered him $5,000 or 45% of the ticket sales. Both numbers had been demanded by Thorpe earlier in the year.[2]
The following evening, Hay called Flanigan and asked for the score of the Rock Island game against Akron. He provided the answer (a 17–0 Independents win), but expressed confusion as to why that was so important for Hay. Hay then told Flanigan to talk to Thorpe before he could agree whether or not to play the game.[2]
An hour and 17 minutes later, Flanigan received a telegram from Thorpe: "Have disbanded team. Cannot meet Rock Island."[2]
Kind of a lame excuse, but it's likely Thorpe also turned it down as the Rock Island/Akron game had only attracted 1,700 fans.[1] Flanigan attempted to reach out to Canton once again with by bumping the offer to $7,000 guaranteed or 50% of the gate.[3] Calls to Hay went unanswered, while one telegram to Thorpe read:[2]
We are offering your team the largest guarantee that it has ever received before, $5,000 or a privilege of 50 per cent for the gate. If you don't accept Rock Island fans will say you are quitters. Wire me your answer."
Thorpe's answer? No. One final call to Thorpe redirected Flanigan to an operator who told him that the Bulldogs player was sick and could not answer.[2]
True to Flanigan's threat, Independents fans and media were quick to brand the Bulldogs as cowards. The Rock Island Argus, a very [2]
Is Canton's famed Bulldogs afraid to risk their title of world's football champions by coming to Rock Island Sunday?
By arranging things in order and arriving at a logical conclusion, there can be but one answer. And that is "yes."
A fan letter to the Argus sports editor:[4]
Dear Sir: Being a real football fan I am like a great many more, disappointed because the Canton Bulldogs have a bad case of yellow. Now I think it would be a nice thing for everyone that has tickets to keep them and give the money which has been paid for admissions to the game, to the team for the splendid showing which they have made.
If anyone does not like the idea let them go and cash up. It seems to me that there would be a very few who would ask for their money back. It would also encourage the boys to come back next fall.
From P. G. M.
A Real Fan
Flanigan wrote to The Daily Times in Davenport:[3]
The Canton game is all off. I offered Hays $7,000 in an attempt to land the game but failed. They did not believe that we defeated Akron until they confirmed, report from Indians direct. It is merely a case of cold, cold feet and a streak of yellow.
Since the Bulldogs weren't going to play the Independents, they automatically declared themselves the national champions.[1] However, the Bulldogs also considered themselves the champs due to their undefeated record.[3]
Yeah, pro football is going to need somebody to settle controversies like this. Maybe a national football league?

Joining the APFA

Although his opinion of the Canton Bulldogs may have soured after their failed championship game, Flanigan was eager to work with Thorpe again.
On September 16, 1920, he boarded a train for Canton, Ohio to participate in a meeting of the top pro football team managers and owners.
"Manager Walter Flanigan left last night for Canton, Ohio, to attend the annual conference of major professional football teams, whose representatives assemble every year to plan the campaign for the world's championship," wrote The Rock Island Argus.[5]
The meeting took place at Hay's car dealership, but the details of that can be found in the last post. Flanigan would be appointed to a three-man committee to write the new league's constitution, joined by Carl Storck of the Dayton Triangles and Stanley Cofall of the Cleveland Tigers.[6]
Upon adjournment, the American Professional Football Association was born. We now have a national football league.

St. Paul Ideals

While the Marines dominated the Minnesota football scene, the St. Paul Ideal Athletic Club was not exactly a juggernaut by comparison, but they were no slouch either. An amateur team, the Ideals entered the 1919 season with the claim that they had lost only thrice since 1914.
In the amateur football section of The Minneapolis Morning Tribune's September 11 issue:[7]
A challenge to Minneapolis fotoball teams has been issued by the Ideals of St. Paul. The Ideals are disirous of booking games with a number of Minneapolis teams, especially the Indians and the East Ends. The St. Paul aggregation claims a record of having been defeated only three times in the last five years. Games already have been arranged with the Billows, Seatons, Hook 'Em Cows and Nicolius. All communications should be addressed to C. R. Woesner, 325 Daly street, St. Paul.
The Marines took up the Ideals' challenge. And promptly walloped them 36–0. Three weeks later, the Ideals tied the Minneapolis Eagles in a scoreless game.[8]
How did they do the rest of the year? I honestly do not know. Media coverage of the Ideals was virtually nonexistent, or at least incredibly difficult to find online. The Pro Football Archives schedule only lists those two games plus two others with no scores, while searches on Newspapers.com and other sites have been mostly fruitless.
Eh, whatever.

Game Day

Build-Up

Rock Island's Douglas Park played host to the Independents' 1920 season opener against the Ideals. Although Rock Island was considered the favorite and was returning its entire starting lineup from the previous year, Flanigan and Ursella were not going to let their guard down.[9]
"A defeat at this time would injure the box office to a big extent besides putting a huge crimp in the chances for a championship team," wrote Frank Weir of The Daily Times.[9]
In the week leading up to kickoff, Ursella ran his team through three-hour practices that included installing new offensive formations and audibles.[10]
The Davenport Democrat and Leader on September 24:[11]
Fearing over-confidence might play a prominent part in Sunday's battle with the St. Paul's Ideals, Coach Ursella last night wired for Chicken, star halfback, and Bob Marshall to report for work at once. Both men will be on hand for tonight's drill at Douglas park. [...]
From all indications Sunday's argument is going to be a heated one. Flanigan at first figured that the St. Paul aggregation would offer only enough resistance to afford his team a good workout but according to the dope which is coming from St. Paul the Ideals are a stronger aggregation than early reports indicated.
Fearing a surprise, Flanigan notified Ursella to get Marshall and Chicken in harness at once.
The Davenport Democrat and Leader on the morning of the game:[12]
Hardened by two weeks' gruelling practice, Rock Island's crack professional football eleven is ready today to open what promises to be the most successful grid season in the history of the professional game in the Tri-City. The St. Paul Ideals, a team of reputation, will offer the opposition and in spite of the fact that this afternoon's contest will be the initial performance for both elevens a bitter struggle is looked for. The game will be played at Douglas park and will be started promptly at 3 o'clock.
The Islanders will enter the fray in he pink of condition, to use the old ring adage. For two weeks Coach Ursella had drilled his team in signals and formations, sprinkling in a few spirited scrimmages between the regulars and second string men. The result is that the Independents will start the season in form that would become an eleven in mis-season condition.
[...]
Saturday the entire city of Rock Island talked football and no doubt football will be talked by the natives of Rock Island for breakfast, dinner and supper today. The city is football crazy.
Today's crowd, no doubt, will be swelled by hundreds of Davenporters whose interest in the Independents is just as keen as the interest of the Rock Island fans. Moline also will undoubtedly send a huge delegation to the game.
Fear Over Confidence
While Coach Ursella is confident that his team is far superior to the St. Paul aggregation, he expressed fear of over-confidence in speaking of the opening clash Saturday.
"The Ideals have played good football for the past three years" stated Ursella, "and I don't believe some of the men are taking the contest seriously enough. I don't want a surprise sprung in this game. I believe I can make the fellows realize they are meeting a tough aggregation, however, before they start in the game."
Bruce Copeland of The Rock Island Argus:[13]
There, football fans, is the first recipe of the season waiting for the expert cuisine of the Douglas park melting pot from which Rock Island hopes will trickle the championship brew at the close of the most eventful football campaign in tri-city history.
Championship dreams of months' duration will first be realized when hundreds of pent-up football enthusiasts from miles around meet tomorrow afternoon at Douglas park and see the green and white jerseyed warriors jog on the field for the first game of the season against the doughty Ideal A. C. of St. Paul.
The game will open a door to a new epoch in tri-city athletics after years of consistent achievements and good sportsmanship. Beyond the portal will be found Championship Way, along which the Independents of 1920 will course; and there isn't a fan in Rock Island who has the slightest doubt that their advance will lead right up to the shrine at the end in which the titular fires are burning.
Tickets were $1.65 plus tax, though attendance was hampered by the weather. After 7,000 fans were expected, only 800 showed up.[13][14]
"As Rube Ursella says, 'Let's go!'"[13]

First Half

As rain fell on Douglas Park, the game began with the Independents winning the coin toss and electing to receive. Left end "Oke" Smith returned the opening kickoff ten yards to his team's 25.[14]
The first offensive play from scrimmage was a nine-yard gain by Mansfield, followed by a 20-yard run by Ursella. A few runs later, halfback Eddie Novak found a hole set up by left tackle Dewey Lyle and scored on a ten-yard run for the first points of the day, capping off a four-minute, 11-play drive.[14]
Although St. Paul's left end Maidl Pavleck returned the ensuing kickoff 20 yards to midfield, his team's opening possession ended after just one play when halfback Cunningham Mikesh lost a fumble that Freeman Fitzgerald recovered. Mansfield broke free and reached the Ideals' 15, and a 12-yard run by Novak set the Independents up at the three. Two plays later, halfback Fred Chicken scored.[14]
The Ideals' next series ended with a three-and-out. After a five-yard run by Mansfield, Ursella completed the first forward pass of the season with a 22-yard throw to Smith to reach St. Paul's 18. By the end of the first quarter, Rock Island was in scoring range at the two-yard line. A play later, Novak punched it in for six.[14]
Down by three scores, St. Paul began to see life when quarterback Parr A. Pahl found E. Dixon O'Brien for a "brilliant forward pass" that went 40 yards. That was ultimately the only good play of the drive as Pahl tried an onside kick (before 1923, the onside kick was legal on scrimmage plays) that Chicken recovered. Both teams exchanged punts shortly after.[14]
Following St. Paul's punt, Chicken's grip on the wet ball slipped, but Mansfield recovered and gained 15 yards before being taken down. A 28-yard run by Chicken placed Rock Island at St. Paul's 38, followed by a 12-yard gain by Paddy Quinn. Three plays later, Mansfield scored again on an 18-yard run.[14]
A 52-yard run by Mikesh put the Ideals in Independents territory, but they could not capitalize as time ran out.[14]

Second Half

After some substitutions, the game resumed with Rock Island kicking off.[14]
A fake punt by Pahl into a lateral to Mikesh on the first play gained three yards. The two attempted a double pass a few plays later, though Mikesh slipped on the mud and fell. As the offense grinded its way into Rock Island's side of the field, yet another double pass placed Mikesh with a lot of open field... until he slipped again.[14]
All offensive progress was ultimately stopped when Pahl was intercepted by Waddy Kuehl, who returned it 82 yards for a pick six.[14]
Mikesh was downed for a 12-yard loss to begin the Ideals' next play from scrimmage, pinning his team at their own eight. Facing immense pressure on the ensuing punt, Pahl dodged the blitz before delivering a quick kick to the St. Paul 32. A 12-yard run by Sid Nichols allowed Rock Island to enter the red zone, where they pounded their way to the end zone yet again on a five-yard run by Mansfield.[14]
The offensive woes continued for the Ideals when Pavleck's pass on a fake punt led to him getting sacked (which was not a term at the time) for 13 yards. Pahl was the next to try a throw, this time succeeding on a 21-yard completion to Pavleck. Mikesh was tackled for an eight-yard loss to end the third quarter.[14]
Down by 42, the Ideals began placing heavy emphasis on feeding Mikesh the ball. St. Paul found themselves in position to score their first points of the game on a drop kick by Pahl from the Rock Island 45, but it was well short and sailed wide left, being caught by Kuehl at his 13.[14]
Nichols let the ball slip through his hands on the next play before Fitzgerald recovered. The Independents' march would see two 22-yard runs, another fumble recover, and an awkward TD score as Kuehl slipped as he crossed the goal line. Nichols missed the extra point.[14]
The final drive of the game saw the Ideals lose a combined 15 yards. Final score: Rock Island 48, St. Paul 0.[14]
The Independents recorded 427 yards on 45 total plays, while the Ideals had just 85 on 52. Rock Island also outgained St. Paul in first downs (17 to five).[14]

Post-Game

Despite the shutout, Weir praised the Ideals, writing in his post-game report that they "displayed a lot more class than this score indicates. The visiting team fought doggedly through the entire four quarters and pulled plays at a surprise nature at intervals that netted long gains. [...]
"The Ideals have a smooth working football team and one that against a less formidable opponent would show some excellent results."[15]
The Davenport Democrat and Leader:[16]
The Independents showed a world of power and lots of spots where sandpaper can be applied profitably. Their offensive was all that could be desired, but the defense was far from perfect. Time and again the visitors would carry the ball to the Rock Island 40-yard line with end runs and line plunges, but that was their high water mark.
None of the Islanders deserve especial citation, all played their part well. Keuhl, Novak and Ursella were extremely clever at eluding the ends, while Novak was always good for four yards thru the line.
Mikesch, St. Paul left halfback, showed a world of speed and pulled off several dazzling end runs thru the entire Islander team. Twice he was stopped on the uncomfortable side of mid-field with only Ursella between him and the two little uprights. Pahl and Pavlick also showed class. Les than 2000 bugs were in attendance.
Copeland:[14]
The score does not indicate the class of the game from the standpoint of interest, for although the Ideals were vastly outplayed in almost every department of the game, they remained a dangerous vector throughout the game that threatened to flaunt the unexpected and thereby cross the Rock Island goal line.
There were several moments during the one-sided contest when breaths were baited from suspense when the Ideals rallied sporadically and cut loose with scoring stuff that was checked only by the most concentrated defense. The Ideals fought gamely to the end through the falling rain that would deter almost any team of such a light weight as the season's initial victims. Outweighed fully 10 pounds to the man, the Ideals made the Independents exert their best, hereby making it one of the best games to witness.
A few days after the game, Flanigan finally got what he wanted the previous year: a game against Jim Thorpe and the Canton Bulldogs, scheduled for November 21.[17]
Well, until everyone on the Independents started getting hurt during the season (including a particularly ugly game in early November against George Halas' Decatur Staleys), leading to its postponement to November 28.[18] The game was ultimately called off as Thorpe felt it was not financially practical, despite Flanigan still being able to provide the $5,000 guarantee.[19]
Flanigan and Rock Island would never play against Thorpe during their time in the NFL. However, in an ironic twist, Thorpe would join the Independents for the 1924 season. The team folded after 1927.[1]

References

[1] THE ROCK ISLAND INDEPENDENTS by Bob Braunwart and Bob Carroll, The Coffin Corner: Vol. 5, No. 3 (1983), Professional Football Researchers Association
[2] CANTON CALLS OFF GAME AFTER LEARNING OF DEFEAT ISLANDERS HANDED OUT TO AKRON TEAM from The Rock Island Argus, December 3, 1919
[3] Sunday's Game Joins Sweet Dreams As $7,000 Is Refused by Bulldogs from The Daily Times, December 5, 1919
[4] "GIVE BOYS JACK INSTEAD REFUND" SAYS LOYAL FAN from The Rock Island Argus, December 6, 1919
[5] ARGUS TO GIVE BOOSTER SHEET TO HELP CAUSE from The Rock Island Argus, September 16, 1920
[6] Associating in Obscurity from the Professional Football Researchers Association
[7] AMATEUR FOOTBALL from The Minneapolis Morning Tribune, September 11, 1919
[8] Parks End Season Sunday Meeting St. Paul Ideals from The Minneapolis Morning Tribune, November 19, 1919
[9] INDEPENDENTS OPEN SEASON WITH IDEAL A. C. TOMORROW: 1919 TEAM NOW GATHERED by Frank Weir, The Daily Times, September 25, 1920
[10] Islander Team Drilling Hard for First Tilt from The Davenport Democrat and Leader, September 22, 1920
[11] IDEALS NO EASY MARKS ON FIELD, R. I. BOSS LEARNS from The Davenport Democrat and Leader, September 24, 1920
[12] TIPPING OF GRID LID TO DRAW RECORD CROWD from The Davenport Democrat and Leader, September 26, 1920
[13] ST. PAUL TEAM NO SETUP FOR OPENING GAME by Bruce Copeland, The Rock Island Argus, September 25, 1920
[14] Speed and Brawn Win for Islanders; Score, 48-0 by Bruce Copeland, The Rock Island Argus, September 26, 1920
[15] INDEPENDENTS, WITH FULL STRENGTH, WIN OVER IDEAL A. C. ON MUDDY FIELD, 48-0 by Frank Weir, The Daily Times, September 27, 1920
[16] Independents Swamp Ideal A.C. 48-0 in First Tilt of the Season from The Davenport Democrat and Leader, September 27, 1920
[17] Rock Island Plays Thorpe's Indians from The Des Moines Evening Tribune, September 29, 1920
[18] Rock Island and Canton to Meet at Douglas Park on Sunday, Nov. 28 from The Davenport Democrat and Leader, November 16, 1920
[19] COLLEGIANS TO MAKE ISLANDERS STEP by Bruce Copeland, The Rock Island Argus, November 22, 1920
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2020.09.02 00:38 varun22486 $ETON - New seekingalpha article - Detail DD - What is about to come - HUGE upside expected

Seeking alpha posted a deep dive on $ETON and it is expected with a huge upside. Give it a read and if you have no time just fast forward to verdict.
Link - https://seekingalpha.com/article/4371985-take-on-eton-pharmaceuticals
Published on : Sep. 1, 2020 3:23 PM ET
Summary
Shares of 505(b)(2) concern Eton Pharmaceuticals, Inc. have more than doubled off their mid-March lows and are now above where they started the year.
COVID-19 is hindering the launch of its one approved product (Biorphen) and the abandonment of large market opportunity candidate ET-103 has had some negative impacts.
With eight late-stage candidates, Eton merited a deeper dive.
A full investment analysis is provided in the paragraphs below.

Company Overview

Eton Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (ETON) is a Deer Park, Illinois based commercial-stage biopharmaceutical concern focused on improving the formula, delivery, and/or safety of approved drugs employing the 505(b)(2) regulatory pathway. The company has one approved therapy (Biorphen) and another eight late-stage candidates, four of which are under FDA review. Eton was spun out of Harrow Health (HROW) in 2017 and IPO'd in 2018, raising net proceeds of $22.0 million at $6 a share. Eton was in deep Busted IPO territory until recently, where it has rallied slightly above its debut but still significantly below its all-time highs. The stock has a current market capitalization of approximately $160 million.
Approach
Source: Company Presentation
Eton's game plan involves targeting compounds with low total investments ($2-5 million) and low revenue ($10-75 million) yet high margin opportunities - since lower revenue opportunities tend to attract fewer competitors, the occasion for higher margins exists. The company generally focuses on therapies that could benefit from a liquid composition and are currently compounded, used off-label, or where significant literature exists. These drugs are even more attractive to Eton if they have high barriers to competition (such as patents or FDA exclusivity) and can be brought to market in 18 months to three years.
Biorphen
The company's approved and commercially available product is Biorphen, a ready-to-use phenylephrine injection that is indicated for the treatment of clinically important hypotension resulting primarily from vasodilation in the setting of anesthesia. It is primarily used in elective surgeries but is also employed in c-sections. Biorphen was approved in October 2019 and launched in December 2019. It eliminates the need for hospitals to manually dilute product or purchase unapproved compounded product from compounders. It also has a superior shelf life of three years.
To speed adoption, Eton entered a co-promotion collaboration with privately held Xellia Pharmaceuticals, which already has a foothold in the healthcare facilities Eton looks to target with its own ready-to-use injectable offering. Eton estimates the current market for Biorphen to be greater than 20 million units - or $50 million - annually. The U.S. commercial rights to Biorphen were acquired from Sintetica SA in February 2019. Eton retains 5% of net sales as a marketing fee and Sintetica receives the $500,000 of product profits, with the balance split 50/50. The company provided the following commercial update on Biorphen with its second quarter results.
Biorphen sales continue to be impacted by COVID-19. While surgical procedure volumes have rebounded from March and April lows, hospital policies continue to restrict sales representatives from visiting with pharmacy directors and hospital staff. Eton plans to implement new targeting strategies and promotional campaigns in the third quarter that are expected to drive stronger sales in the second half of 2020."
Currently Filed Candidates
Alkindi Sprinkle. Eton's most recently acquired candidate is Alkindi Sprinkle, a reformulation of hydrocortisone - essentially granules in capsules for opening - that is seeking FDA approval as a replacement therapy for pediatric adrenal insufficiency {AI}, including congenital adrenal hyperplasia in patients less than 17 years of age. Current hydrocortisone tablets are only available in strengths of 5mg and up and do not allow for proper dosing of pediatric patients. Alkindi Sprinkle provides precision dosing and will be available in strengths of 0.5mg, 1mg, 2mg, and 5mg. The compound has already been approved in Europe (2018) and has experienced high rates of adoption (>50%) amongst newly diagnosed patients. As such, Eton sees Alkindi Sprinkle as a $100 million domestic market opportunity with ~5,000 American pediatric patients suffering from AI. Alkindi Sprinkle has received Orphan Drug status and a September 29, 2020 PDUFA date from the FDA.
The U.S. marketing rights to Alkindi Sprinkle were acquired from Diurnal in March 2020. Upfront consideration included 379,474 shares of Eton stock and $3.5 million cash. Eton is also on the hook for $2.5 million upon launch, annual tiered milestone payments up to $20 million and low-double digit to high teens royalties.
If approved, Eton plans on marketing it in-house with a sales force of five to seven calling on ~1,000 pediatric endocrinologists.
ET-105. Also seeking FDA approval is ET-105, an oral liquid formulation of epilepsy treatment lamotrigine. Currently approved only as an oral solid, it is designed to fulfill an unmet need for patients (especially children) who require precision dosing to reduce the risk of adverse events. Eton acquired the U.S. marketing rights to ET-105 from Aucta Pharmaceuticals in June 2019. The market for oral lamotrigine is estimated at $700 million. In March 2020, ET-105 received a CRL for lack of a human factor analysis. That required study is expected to wrap up shortly with the results to be submitted to the FDA in 3Q20.
EM-100. Another third-quarter catalyst is the potential approval of EM-100, a preservative-free formulation of ketotifen ophthalmic solution for the treatment of allergic conjunctivitis. Bausch Health (BHC) acquired U.S. rights to EM-100 in exchange for milestone payments and a double-digit royalty on future product sales in February 2019. Bausch received a CRL from the FDA in July 2019 and submitted an amendment in December 2019. The product had been assigned a target action date of August 10, 2020 which now has been extended to September 15th. The market for ketotifen ophthalmic products is estimated at $75+ million.
DS-300. Eton's other candidate with a target action date is DS-300, an injectable cysteine hydrochloride candidate. The company's development partner has been selling the product in its current form since 1990 as an unapproved (grandfathered) product. When a competitor's NDA received approval for the same active ingredient in 2019, Eton was forced to alter its submission from an NDA to an ANDA containing a Paragraph IV certification challenging the validity of the Exela Pharma patents that were issued in 2019 and 2020 despite the fact that Eton's partner manufactured and commercialized cysteine hydrochloride injection for decades prior in the same formulation claimed to be novel by Exela. If successful at invalidating Exela's patents, Eton would be entitled to 180 days of generic exclusivity. The target action date is some day in October 2020. If approved, Eton estimates the market size at $65 million.
Other Candidates
In addition to its four compounds currently under FDA review, the company has four late-stage product candidates.
ET-203. Like Biorphen, ET-203 is a ready-to-use formulation of a currently approved product in a hospital environment that currently must be diluted with calculations necessary before administration; thus, ensuring a reduction in compounding errors. Also similar to Biorphen, ET-203 has a superior shelf life to the currently approved active ingredient. An NDA was presented in July 2019 and received a refuse-to-file letter that development partner, Sintetica, is addressing with a resubmission scheduled in 2020. The market opportunity is estimated at $90 million.
ET-104. Another Eton candidate is ET-104, an oral liquid targeting a $65 million neurological indication that eliminates the need for patients to manually crush tablets to create liquid solutions. The company just filed an NDA submission last week.
ET-101. Eton has one other oral liquid targeting a neurological condition: ET-101 (topiramate). Its active ingredient is currently approved as an oral solid. The company is conducting a bioequivalence study and anticipates filing an NDA in 2020. The domestic market for ET-101's active ingredient is north of $800 million.
DS-100. The last of Eton's late-stage candidates is DS-100, which was another unapproved grandfathered product until its active ingredient recently received FDA approval after a competitor submitted an NDA. Eton recently submitted an NDA for a different indication in July.
ET-103 Abandonment
Eton experienced a setback when it abandoned its ET-103 program, an oral liquid formulation of levothyroxine for the treatment of hypothyroidism, due to poor bioequivalence study results. The opportunity was significant with 5.7 billion levothyroxine tablets prescribed annually, amounting to a $2.6 billion opportunity lost.

Balance Sheet & Analyst Commentary

With Biorphen only launching in December 2019, revenues are nominal. Eton held cash of $10.3 million as of the end of the second quarter. Earlier this month, the company executed an amendment to its credit facility with SWK Holdings which 'will add $5 million of additional capacity upon FDA approval of Alkindi Sprinkle. Upon closing of the amendment, Eton drew down $2 million and will have $8 million of available undrawn capacity after the approval of Alkindi Sprinkle'.
Eton has a small but enthusiastic Street following, with three buy ratings since late July and a median twelve-month price target of $15 a share. H.C. Wainwright reiterated its Buy rating and Street high $18 price target on Eton last week.

Verdict

Eton's game plan to build a stable of low-cost, high-margin (but low revenue-generating) approved therapies using the 505(b)(2) regulatory pathway is a solid strategy and the Biorphen and Alkindi Sprinkle opportunities are promising. Biorphen sales and Alkindi Sprinkle approval are just two of the many catalysts coming over the next 18 months.
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2019.08.26 08:20 firearmsconcierge2 A weekend in the life 8/25/2019, or Helping the Second Amendment Weekend

Saturday
747AM: My alarm blares and I am awakened. My back is not doing too well. Megan's salon closed several months ago and she has been working two jobs and has had a lot going on and I don't get a chance to catch up with her as much as I used to where she'd tell me what's going on with her life, I'd crack wise and she'd jam her elbow into an extremely tight part of my muscle group trying to make me feel pain. Megan does not know I fly United. She cannot hurt me.
My gun club has monthly orientation and I go to help out since it is typically a shitshow and the Louisiana heat in the middle of August is an absolute killer of those with weak constitutions.
I have the dubious distinction of doing Firefighter 1 in Louisiana IN JULY/AUGUST/SEPTEMBEOCTOBER so I am accustomed to my body losing a gallon of water in 20 minutes so this is the usual to me.
9AM: Roll up to the gun club and help set up orientation. The gals helping have brought Chickfila chicken biscuits for breakfast as a treat for the crew helping out. Awesome. I scarf two down as we do a range briefing. All the people I check out handle their firearms properly and don't injure themselves or destroy range property.
Sidenote: The Ruger SR22 Longslide is fucking garbage. The trigger pull on the DA is fucking atrocious. I wish the club bought S&W Victory's or the Mark IV with the push button takedown LIKE I RECOMMENDED but they didn't heed my suggestions.
1203: I pack up the guns and head back to give the tour.
1245: We have completed the Bataan Death March, I mean a tour of the gun club in Louisiana in August at noon. Everyone is ready to go home
102: I'm on my way out of the gun club and I run into Ralph. Ralph is the gatekeepemaintenance person that also fights fire and just got out of medic school. We enjoy talking shop, fire shit, gun shit etc and he's a good egg. We trade stories of idiots and guns and fire calls. He tells me a story about a DUI he ran where the guy said he had one beer before he flipped his F150. Ralph asks just how big that beer was. ETOH says "THAT BEER WAS ABOUT AS BIG AS YOUR PUSSY" at which point Ralph doubles over in laughter and high fives the guy. He's going to jail, but he's having such a good time about it I have a feeling he will fit right in with the drunk tank.
2PM: I get back home and clean out my car, clean all my guns in my range back and lube them all up. I've got ladies day at the range to prep for tomorrow and I try to help out whenever I can. Just as I finish wiping down some mags, I get a call.
ring ring
FC: Go for FC
1: Hey FC, it's Calvin - can I come pick up my Barrett 50 today?
FC: Sure thing! Just let me get cleaned up and I'll head in.
1: I'm about 45 minutes away and I gotta get gas so I'll see you in an hour.
FC: Sounds good!
212PM: I hop in my F350 and head to work. My AC blower motor has decided to stop working. It's a good thing I'm not in Louisiana a week before Labor day in the middle of summer. That would just be the fucking worst, wouldn't it? Oy.
234PM: Roll into work, get paperwork ready for Calvin and double check all his mags, parts, etc. I've got two Barrett 50 black cases next to my desk today. Today I didn't even have to use my AK. I got to say it was a good day. Barrett 50 does not rhyme well with it, I think Ice Cube nailed it the first time. I have been invited to write some pro-2A op ed's for the local bar association newsletter and I work on that for a bit until Calvin arrives.
3.14159: Pi
3:15PM: Calvin rolls up in his brand new Lexus LX470 and asks if it'll fit. I tell him that it'll fit.
We crank off 4473's and I show him on the parts list where we had some problems and replacement items will be in in a few days. He's understanding about the situation and is glad i double checked all the parts for him before he found out he was missing some. Super cool fella, I wish I had more customers like him. The PM 2 looks fantastic on the gun and everything is done right for once. He packs all his stuff up and goes home.
345PM: I'm all done at work, I grab a sandwich at the deli across the street and as I'm stuffing my gullet with pastrami I get an email from a buddy of mine asking if I want to go to the gun show with him. It's about an hour away and Sundays are kinda slow but with the blower motor out on the F350, that's a sacrifice I'm not willing to make. A reluctant pass. I head to the grocery store and get some shopping done. Theo 70% chocolate bars are on special, so I grab a few. Ever since I met Megan, I keep a drawer of high test dark chocolate at the ready in case she's having a bad day. It's been a few weeks since she had her birthday, I wonder how she's doing.
439PM: I get home and unload all the groceries. Steak, Pork Sausage, Eggs, Orange Juice - this will make for a tasty breakfast all week. Nom nom nom.
511PM: I can't find my fucking sunglasses. I have to clean out the F350. No idea where they are. Fuck. I'm gonna need those Oakleys for ladies day in the morning. Shit. I grab a trashcan and clean out the cab and I fill two trashbags of junk before I realize I need a shop vac too. No Oakleys. Fuck.
550PM: Time to hit the self service wash with free vaccum. $8 in quarters later I'm washed down and vacuumed out. Surprisingly no ammo on the floorboards. I head back to the gun club to look for my Oakleys. No dice. I'm wandering around and there's storage and gates open. WTF. I know USPSA is tomorrow and setup is Saturday before for Sunday AM match but what the fuck? I call the club president and ask what's up. He has no idea. I tell him that if we're just leaving doors open to rooms with literally THOUSANDS of dollars worth of steel targets - we're just asking for them to be stolen and made fun of. He agrees this should not happen. I lock up all the club property and lock up the gates. Tsk tsk.
612PM: One of the junk mail flyers on the floorboard was from the Ford dealer. Hmm. Maybe I won the big one. I head over there to the parts department for a price on a new blower motor. They're closed. Fuck. At least I win a $10 gift card to Outback Steakhouse. Win. My glasses must be back at work. Shit. I head back home and take a well deserved shower.
713PM: Time to hit the road and I go to my weekly AA meeting. It's a good meeting although I wish the speaker didn't use that much profanity. Unfortunately, there is no "364 day" chips so I'll have to wait until next week to get mine. After the meeting we all head out to eat at a local BBQ place. I order the prime rib.
1032PM: Gary who is sitting across from me bets me that I cannot eat 14 ounces of medium prime rib as a sandwich between two pieces of texas toast. I say how much you wanna bet?
Gary: five bucks
FC: I got five bucks right here (I pull out my wallet and extract 5 well worn singles and slap em on the table)
Gary begins to backpedal. He pulls out his cash in his pockets and he says he does not have a five he's got two singles. I make out the corner of a C note.
FC: Fine, then lets go big or go home. I see you got a bill. Lets go for a bill.
(I put a C note right on top of the napkin dispenser for everyone to see that the gauntlet has been thrown down)
Gary: No bet, no bet.
FC: Gary, you're no fun anymore since you stopped drinking.
Gary: The same could be said for you my friend!
He's not wrong.
1121: I stop by FC HQ on the way home. My oakleys are on my desk. I'm an idiot. At least I'm an idiot with a clean F350.
1149: Back home, time to take another shower, finish up all the laundry and time to catch some Zzzzz's before the alarm.
Sunday
757AM: I am jarred awake after an evening of restless slumber. I tossed and turned all night. My new memory foam pillows aren't even helping. My back is stiffer than Jeffrey Epstein watching the Disney Channel. This is gonna go real well.
812AM: A very hot shower and ibuprofen are not going to fix this. I wince in pain just getting my jeans and my boots on. Thankfully the range bag is already loaded up and I don't have to carry it out. One Egg McMuffin and a swig of Simply Orange and my day has begun.
9AM: Ladies day festivities commence at the range, I do some basic instruction and supervisory tasks and everyone seems to have a good time. By noon the group has decided to call it quits and I'm ready for a shower and lunch.
1230PM: I grab an italian from Jersey Mikes on my way home. After a cool shower, I scarf it down with some ginger ale, beverage of champions.
1PM: As I am in recovery mode on the couch I realize something. My passport is expiring soon and I need to get new pictures. Fuck. I drive over to CVS and have them do some passport photos for me and I get my application filled out back at FC HQ. The phone rings.
ring ring
FC: Go for FC
Stan: Hey FC, it's Stan over from PD in Illinois - we met out at SHOT last year?
FC: Yeah man, what's up?
Stan: I need a black nitron Sig 227 SAS Gen 2 for the chief, we're a 45ACP department and nobody's got one. Think you can work your magic? It's letterhead so ships direct to department.
FC: Let me check the back. Hang on.
I crack the safe open and there's a 227 Layaway that hasn't been paid on for 3 years sitting there but I can't remember what model it was
There's $300 down and a $800 balance. From 2016. It's an SAS Gen 2. Yeah, fuck this.
FC: Stan, got one for you. $900 and its yours. Cut me a city check?
Stan: If you can send it out, I'll get with the comptroller on Monday AM and have her mail you a check.
FC: Done.
Stan: You're the best!
FC: That's what she said.
Stan: LOL
That's what she said, and that's true. I wish she hadn't hanged herself. As it turns out, for some folks - the most important thing you can do is just to listen. Apparently being honest, respecting someone and not raping them puts you in the top 1% nowadays. Fuck, why do I always get involved with these women. Maybe that's why I drink, or maybe it's why I don't drink anymore. I don't know. I don't have the answers but they tell me they'll come if your own house is in order. Mine isn't. But it's a work in progress.
216PM: I dump Stan's gun off at the self service kiosk at the post office and check my calendar. I'm O positive and the blood bank loves my blood. I drive over to donate and I grab 3 apple juices and two packages of cheezits. They're delicious.
237PM: The phlebotomist is named Lisa. She's cute. We have the same birthday. Every time she sticks me, they're required to ask you name and date of birth. So when she sticks me, I state my name and I say same as yours. She then stabs me with a giant needle into my arm that gushes blood. It's a strange relationship, but we make it work. We catch up and she tells me that her boyfriend is planning on taking her to a tour of craft breweries in Asheville NC. I tell her he needs to up his game and fly her to LA and go for a drive down Mulholland, a walk around the scenic overlook and dinner at In and Out Burger. She thinks I'm insane. I tell her that if I had a beautiful woman like her in my life, I'd do something like that for her. She says I'm sweet. I say it must be the blood loss.
315PM: I am now a pint low and on my way back home. I'm sweating like GOP leadership at a White House Press Conference featuring unscripted remarks from Donald Trump.
330PM: Another shower and I'm feeling a lot fresher and I do some more writing for my article. My co-conspiratocollaborator says I have a good foundation but we need some legal references to back our positions up. I call him up and he agrees to comb through McDonald and Heller for anything good. We eventually settle on a few select words from Antonin Scalia that underscores our values. Every two child did. I will.
450PM: I finish a draft outline and send it over to my accomplices in legal writing. He says he'll look at it and gives me a Lexis Nexis login to do some more research. Score! I run down a few searches and I don't find anything useful but I make some notes on keywords to search and hopefully I'll dig some more material out later. I work on a few jokes and transitions but the substance of the article still needs work. We have a framework and a foundation but not much else. I'll deal with this later.
512PM: Email from a girl I went to middle school with. Ironically, I didn't know we went to middle school together until about 8 years ago when we met through some mutual friends. Her dream ever since she was a little girl was to be a lawyer. She got a job at the courthouse in the restaurant making sandwiches, washing dishes and serving lawyers. Eventually she made her way to the clerks office, put herself through law school AS A SINGLE MOM and passed the bar last year. We chat about legal issues from time to time and she went from being a state prosecutor to working in private practice doing wills/real estate and she hated it. Her place is in a courtroom, not a fancy office doing doc review and being on the phone all day. She's moving to the public defender's office and asked me if I'd be of assistance helping her to get up to speed on firearm issues. I tell her anything for her. She says I'm sweet. Where have I heard that before?
530PM: August 25, 1975. One of the greatest albums ever to be pressed into vinyl was released, and that album of course is Bruce Springsteen's Born to Run. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3t9SfrfDZM
I fire it up as I fire up my chimney starter, it's summertime and it's steak grilling time. I got some nice thick USDA prime top sirloins. S&P the choice for me. Four and a half minutes a side. Turn for the nice grill marks. Down the hatch.
The beauty of the grill and the genius that is Springsteen's Born to Run is 4 minutes and 30 seconds. The dulcet tones of Max Weinberg on drums, Clarence Clemons on sax and Phil Spector's wall of sound - this album isn't just music. It's magnificence. It's the only thing worth a shit to every come out of New Jersey. Okay, that and my friend Liz that I took to Mortons (she was born in Passaic but I don't hold that against her) but that's it. I air guitar as I let the kingsford charcoal do it's thing.
The instrumental break to Thunder Road tells me that we're almost ready to pull those suckers off for a perfect medium rare. These are a little thicker than normal so I leave them on for closer to 5 minutes. I pull and rest my beef on the counter as I prepare some creamed spinach, some fresh broccoli and some bacon and brussels sprouts. My 10 ounces of USDA prime beef have to be complimented with some well prepared vegetables. The creamed spinach is going straight to my thighs, but I don't care. The broccoli is buttered and dashed with garlic salt. Bacon and brussels sprouts are a perfectly balance between eating healthy and smothering your food in bacon grease. I love it so.
615PM: I cut into my steak for a beautiful bleeding just a bit in the center medium rare. I scarf it down faster than Roseanne Barr and a bottle of Ambien. Life is good. Or is it?
645PM: I'm back in recovery mode on my couch. My back is killing me but the pint of Cherry Garcia is taking the edge off. I've got writers block for the article. I understand the concept and the big picture but I can't make the connection between micro to macro and vice versa. Maybe some music will help me figure it out. I set the ipad to shuffle and I let my mind wander for ideas. Billy Joel starts rocking out to Uptown Girl and I'm reminded of Megan. My back is out, she's got a gun to protect her from shithead ex and......hmm. Maybe this is the angle? Does my story need a non-academic these are real world people with real world problems rejoinder?
No, I can't.
I couldn't.
She's my friend, not a research subject.
I......know she gets off work at 9 when her spa closes and there's a kilo of varying brands of dark semi sweet chocolate in my desk right next to my Stainless Sig 220. Maybe I should ask permission. After all, I did get her a nice present for her birthday. Lets see how she's doing.
701PM: I throw on a clean seersucker shirt and head up to Megan's spa. I have to stop for diesel so there goes the $100 I had leftover from dinner last night.
745PM: Her car is visible from the road, I park next to it one space away. I grab my notepad and laptop and try to think up how I want to pitch this to her.
"Megan, how would you like to be the subject of......" - no.
This does not have to be that difficult. She's a nice girl that's been treated badly and she doesn't deserve this. Also, for those new to /guns
me and megan
we have
a little bit
of a sordid history
where I try
to ask her out
where I am
very bad
with ladies
Laptop in front seat, passport photos and passport are on lap with my legal pad scribbled with chicken scratch everywhere.
The spa closes at 9. She leaves sometime after that. I've got about an hour to figure this out.
859PM: I'm fucking clueless. I cannot figure this out for the life of me. This is a terrible idea this idea. I shouldn't have done this. I should leave. No, we're already here.
915PM: Megan walks out and is telling her coworker about the customer from hell at her other job very emphatically. I'm sitting there holding a notepad with a pencil behind my ear with the window rolled down looking at her casually. The radio is on playing "I only wanna be with you" by Hootie and the Blowfish. She gets to her car, finishes her story and looks up at me quizzically, stops and smiles.
Megan: Really?
I get out, and I forget that my passport, passport photos and notepad were all sitting in my lap.I'm distracted by her beauty. All my crap is on the ground now.
FC: Really what?
Megan: Really?
FC: I guess I'm that predictable.
Megan: I guess so.
I pick up my notepad, passport photos and passport.
FC: How are you? Did you enjoy your birthday and your present?
Megan: Yes! I needed that week off. How are you? I see you got a haircut.
FC: I got em all cut. I don't like it though. My first choice of stylist wasn't available.
Megan: Sorry.
FC: It's not your fault the salon closed.
Megan: What are you doing here?
FC: I uh. I......
I look down at my feet and my passport slides off the legal pad. I look back up and feign the confidence of Hill and Mac on a facebook live video.
FC: I figured I'd see how you were doing and ask you out on a date.
Megan: Really?
FC: Really.
Megan picks up my passport and opens it up and looks at my picture. She cracks a smile looking at my ugly pre obama administration picture.
Megan: You know, that's funny. I was thinking about calling you before work.
FC: For what purpose?
Megan: I was going to ask you on a date.
FC: Really?
Megan: Really.
FC: Is that a yes?
Megan: That's a yes.
FC: When and where?
Megan: (names time and place)
FC: Done.
Megan: Your timing is really incredible, you know that?
FC: I'm glad plan A worked. Because plan B was asking you out on a date, having an awkward pause, getting rejected and then uh I'm not sure what the next steps would be but I'm certain groveling would be involved followed by "come on, it's my birthday"
(Megan opens my passport up and looks at it more closely)
Megan: Really?
FC: Really.
Megan: I don't get asked out by guys very often. What do we do now?
FC: You don't get asked out by guys that don't treat you like crap very often. Hug?
Megan: Okay. Hug.
(we hug)
Megan: Happy birthday
Me: It wasn't. But it is now. See you (time/place).
I get back in my truck and the last line of the Hootie and the Blowfish song is playing....... ♫ "I only wanna be with you" ♫
Can't make this up.
One psycho ex, two kilos of dark chocolate 3 ounces at a time, a surplus oxygen mask from a Delta MD88 taped to a Theo chocolate bar with a handwritten post it that said "In case someone takes your breath away in a good way", two trips to Atlanta, a three year no contact order, one bouquet of flowers on valentines day, one bleeding scrotum, two slices of Chick-Fil-A chocolate pie, one dinner out as friends, one GPS tracker, and three years later - and I've got a date.
I guess Tom Petty was right.
And in case anyone is wondering. I will be carrying, and I will sleep soundly on my left side if I have to punch her psycho ex in the forehead with a 124 grain bonded Speer Gold Dot.
Oh yeah and one more thing. Guess who's 10 years sober today
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2019.08.10 02:32 hodsct59 My Choices For Arlington Million Day 8-10-2019

I am going to like a lot of horses that will get good odds in today's races. You can use your own judgement whether you will want to take a risk or not, but that is really my best game. I struggle the most when I try to put too many favorites in the mix or when the races results in a lot of favorites doing what they are supposed to do. While I am use to waiting until my horses runs the way I expect them to, I can also understand others who might get impatient. The rewards always outweighs the frustration but it took me years to figure that part out. And it will anyone else also that plays the races the way I do. But value is what will eventually determine whether you win or lose over the long run, another fact that I spent years before I realized it.
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1st Race:
7)Contendress(9-2) Has made two starts, first race tried to contest the early pace and faded. 2nd race, laid off the pace and tried to make up late ground but finished fairly even. Now adds blinkers and looks fast enough to outbreak the favorites if the blinkers helps. The unknown is the other first time starters who shows speed in their works. Her sire, Competitive Edge, a son of Ky Derby winner Super Saver, broke his maiden in his first start, in wire to wire fashion finishing clear by 10+ lengths at Saratoga in 109 4/5.
4)Mysteriously(8-1) First time starter that has some good works for debut. Both sire, Tiznow and broodmare sire, Bernardini, were better in middle distance races, her 2nd dam, Burmilla, a daughter of Storm Cat, won her first two starts, both at 6 furlongs and both in 110 flat at two different tracks. With her, the break will be the key.
3)Josephine Baker(9-5) has made one start and set an uncontested pace but faded when challenged. However, her trainer is leading the trainer standing comfortably this year and will have to include. Also will run with lasix for the first time in her 2nd start and both her works since were more likely maintenance breezes to keep her fit.
1)Chez Paree(3-1) Has made one start and contested the pace throughout but could not get by the wire to wire winner while clear of the rest. Two works since that effort, including her last which suggests she should take a step forward. Broodmare sire, Defrere, was always overshadowed by his full brother, Dehere, a champion 2 YO Colt and sire of Take Charge Lady, among others, but both were known for siring foals that had high speed. Definitely not out of it, but will have more front running speed to contend with.
Bets: $5 Ex Box 4-7($10), $1 Tri Box 3-4-7($6), .10 Super Box 1-3-4-7(2.40), $1 Super Key 7 with 1-3-4 with 1-3-4 with 1-3-4($6). Total Risk $24.40.
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2nd Race:
6)Lyman(20-1) has made one start and trailed the field. However, he tossed his head at the start, was leaned on in the early stages by the runaway winner and simply gave others to much of a head start, especially in a race that was that quick. Now two more works since, one easy and the other that shows he has some fronting speed. A better break and a cleaner trip should put him over the top.
1)High Heater(6-1) First time starter. Trainer is 10% lifetime winning trainer and normally prepares his trainees with a series of slow works. To me, that six furlong work just before his first effort should give him plenty of wind. High Heater has shown flashes of speed in a couple of his works and his bloodlines suggests he should be high speed. His sire, Creative Cause, broke his maiden in his debut at the old Hollywood Park in 56 4/5 seconds for five furlongs and took the Best Pal S in his 2nd start in a 115 3/5 for 6 1/2 furlongs.
5)Top Justice(12-1) Another first time starter. He has some good works for his debut, including a 6 furlong work like my second choice that should help. While his trainer has a 8% lifetime winning percentage in his ninth year as a trainer, he trains mostly cheap stock and spots them aggressively, and has banked more than $7M without a big name runner. Top Justice sire, Danza won a maiden race in his first start, the Arkansas Derby in his 4th career start and finished 3rd to California Chrome in the 2014 Ky Derby, his career finale.
9)Fast Dreamer(9-2)Another first time starter. He also has some good works and bloodlines. However, trainer stop on him for almost a month before putting in his two best work for his first start. But the stoppage as he was approaching being ready always raises a red flag, because it usually indicates a minor ailment or sickness, so I will include underneath mostly.
Bets: $10 WP 6($20), $5 Ex Box 1-6($10), $1 Tri Box 1-5-6($6), .10 Super Box 1-5-6-9($2.40), .50 Super Key 6 with 1-5-9 with 1-5-9 with 1-5-9($3). Total Risk $41.40.
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3rd Race:
6)Detour(15-1) She has made for starts and has not placed in any. However, her trainer has been trying to get her back on grass since her first effort and looks like he might get that opportunity here. Her last two was switched to the AWT which is probably not the surface she wants. Her sire, Bellamy Road, smashed the stakes record in the 2005 Wood Memorial and came 1/5 second off Riva Ridge's track record set when he was 4 YO in 1973. Detour's female family has quite a bit of grass influence. Three works since her last effort for a trainer who has more success on grass than the AWT.
3)Just A Look(12-1) First time starter that has some good works and nice bloodlines for grass. Dam won 3 of 7 lifetime starts, all three on grass, including a listed stakes, with a late kick in Southern California. While her works has been a little inconsistent for my taste, her trainer will sneak a live one through, on occasion.
7)Meghan(5-1) She has made 4 lifetime starts, with one third her only board finish. However, she has had the same problem as my top choice, in that her trainer has tried to get her back on grass after her first effort, and in fact, this makes the four race in a row that they faced each other. While she has beaten my top choice all three times, it was by a nose, nose and 1/4 length, on surfaces she should have had a small advantage on.
5)Quality Too Spare(6-1) She has made three starts, with a third in her last her best effort. While I normally try to find a trainer who has a little more success than this one(no wins yet), she has enough speed to clear early and could hang on for a minor reward, depending on what how bad the others might fade.
Bets: $10 WP 6($20), Ex Box 3-6($10), $1 Tri Box 3-6-7($6), .10 Super Box 3-5-6-7($2.40), .50 Super Key 6 with 3-5-7 with 3-5-7 with 3-5-7($3). Total Risk $41.40.
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4th Race:
7)Blue Sky Kowboy(20-1) Has made 3 starts this year after an seven month break. Won his 2nd start, though it was restricted to state bred and was his first other than grass win and then ran poor against in a state bred stakes race, also moved to the AWT from grass. Though his recent stats shows otherwise, trainer has more than held his own with grass runners throughout his career. Just believe he is ready to give his best effort this year.
6)My Bariley(4-1) Has made 4 starts since his last winning effort, with two against graded stakes horse and another in a stakes which he has previously won. Also holds a recent class edge against these with a good work since his last effort. The one to beat.
8)Cuestion De Tempo(5-1) Has made 4 starts since an eight month break, with his last arguably the best effort since he returned. He has recorded two good works since his last and a mile fits him better than others in here.
3)Marzo(9-2) Has made 5 starts this year, winning his fourth start as an odds on favorite, most likely because others seen his yearling purchase price of $1M. However, that buyer(Coolmore) has long decided he did not have the ability they originally thought he had and decided to cut their losses and move on for $35K. That win was in a conditioned allowance, so I doubt he can do much better than a minor share, though his trainer has turned around the fortunes of several horses. This, so far, does not look like one of those times, though.
Bets: $10 WP 7($20), $5 Ex Box 6-7($10), $1 Tri Box 6-7-8($6), $3 Tri Key 6-7 with 6-7 with 8($6), .10 Super Box 3-6-7-8($2.40). Total Risk $44.40.
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5th Race:
8)Jazz Channel(5-1) Made one start on AWT and showed speed to top of stretch before tiring slightly. Now switches to grass which is the surface she should prefer most. One maintenance work since that effort should help make the forward move necessary to compete in this race. Her sire, English Channel, ran his best races on grass and most of his foals seems to like grass much better than AWTs or dirt. Her broodmare sire, Bernardini is better known for his abilities on dirt and his best foals has followed suit, though a few had shown they like the grass more.
9)Summer Day(12-1) First time starter. Has the workout pattern that has proven most beneficial to me. Both her sire, Sky Mesa, and her broodmare sire, Empire Maker, were G1 winners on dirt but never tried the grass. However, both their pedigrees suggests they could possibly have been even better on that surface, judging by the foals they have produce. Trainer normally only wins a few every year from limited runners, but Summer Day's 2nd dam, G3 SW Summer Mis, was his top runner and her daughter, Summer Again, spent her career in Illinois under his care, though neither was tried on grass.
5)Fall Moon(12-1) First time starter. Also has the workout pattern that seems to work best, working consistently every 7 days. Her sire, Lea, was a G1 SW on dirt and a G3 SW and G1 Placed on grass. However, he has Giant's Causeway and Galileo cross, so both surfaces have suited him. Broodmare sire, Quality Road, also was a G1 SW on dirt but his foals have performed well on both, especially around the mile distances.
2)Aunt Dorothy(9-2) Made one start and finished third. Pedigree fits nicely against these. One work since that effort which was a little too fast for my liking, but trainer tends to make right call more often than not, especially for grass. About a second slower and would have been my second choice and biggest perceived threat to my top choice.
Bets: $10 WP 8($20), $5 Ex Box 8-9($10), $1 Tri Box 5-8-9($6), .10 Super Box 2-5-8-9($2.40), $1 Super Key 8 With 2-5-9 with 2-5-9 with 2-5-9. Total Risk $44.40.
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6th Race:
1)Buttered Noodles(8-1) Has made one start. Tracked front runners, made a bid for the lead at the half then flatten out and faded on the AWT. Has two good works, including a 6 furlong work that is rarely seen in racing today, but used to be an angle as effective as first time lasix when a vet had to determine if bleeding occurred during a race or workout. Buttered Noodles's sire is City Zip, sire of known sprinters/milers on all surfaces. His dam, Flowerbomb, is 1/2 sister to Materiality and My Miss Sophia. She won twice in 14 starts, both at 1 1/16 mile, an AWT maiden race and N/W 2 allowance on grass.
Recklessness(15-1) Has made one start. Broke slowly and pick up horses while not making a dent into the runaway winner margin but just missed catching the runner up. Even good works before that effort proved futile. No works since but returns in 2 weeks, so another work would have been a little too much. A better start is expected. His sire, Midshipman, won the G1 Del Mar Futurity & G1 BC Juvenile Dirt, beating Pioneerof The Nile in the latter while landing 2 YO Champion Colt Award and is a 1/2 brother to the dam of Frosted. His dam made one start on grass and like her son, broke slowly and made up a little ground. 2nd dam won 5 of 18 starts, all at mid distances on dirt including a small stakes race.
9)Mister Not Funny(12-1) Made one start in the same race as my top choice. His works before that effort signaled a mid pack finish was most likely and that is where he finished after break slowly and waiting until the stretch to give his best effort, in a distance much to short and likely not best surface either. He goes with first time lasix in here and a surface and distance that he should perform better in, off two similar works as before his first effort. Still, improvement is expected and could surprise.
7)The Gray Blur(5-1) Made one start and exits out of the race as two of my other choices in here, which I normally will not even consider putting that many together from same effort. However, he ran an even race and basically was eliminated at the start with a less than ideal break for him. His sire, Fast Anna, hails from the same sire line(El Prado) and dam line(Kitten's First) as Kitten's Joy. The Gray Blur's dam line will also help him on this surface. Two works, including a solid one and the addition of blinkers could be all he needs to take this field from gate to wire. Beware!
Bets: $10 WP 1($20), $5 Ex Box 1-3($10), $1 Tri Box 1-3-9($6), $3 Tri Key 1 with 3-9 with 3-9($6), .10 Super Box 1-3-7-9($2.40), .50 Super Key 1 with 3-7-9 with 3-7-9 with 3-7-9($3). Total Risk $47.40.
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7th Race:
4)Rustic Rick(30-1) He returned from a 7 month break, took a few races to get in his best form and then sprung a major upset two starts back in his fourth effort since his return. Has three lifetime efforts on grass, all at one mile, but was asked to face much too tough in his last in his first start against winner. This will be his first time getting a firm turf with competition that simply matches his ability at best. His sire, Country Day, won several sprint grass stakes but also finished 2nd in the 2011 BC Turf Sprint. Dam, Ric Rac, won 4 of 19 lifetime starts, all 4 on grass at either a mile or 1 1/16 mile. No works since his first effort against winners, but returns in two weeks.
2)Jackfruit(20-1) Also broke his maiden 2 back on the AWT and then entered against winners in the same type class level in next. But he finally gets the surface he was really bred for, though he takes a couple steps up in class. His sire, Get Stormy, was a multiple G1 SW, earning more than $1.6M in his racing career. Dam, Ride 'Em Cowgirl, won her only stakes in an off the turf on the AWT, but also ran 2nd in a grass stakes race. This family traces much deeper than these two, but this is enough to let me come to my decision on whether to include or not.
12)Bird(30-1) Made one start and broke his maiden in same class as my 2nd choice. He has a pedigree that suggests he will perform pretty good on grass also, though not as close up in his bloodlines as my choice above him. Sire, Gio Ponti, was a multiple G1 SW on grass and two time grass champion in the U.S. Bird's 3rd dam, Oh What A Dance, produced Heavenly Prize, a G! champion herself and producer of Pure Prize and Good Reward, both foals of Storm Cat and better known for their grass runners.
3)True Loyalty(6-1) He will be working on his fourth start since a 10 month break, with improvement noted in his last. This is one of my angle horse that I will normally not bet against, but I like the others as good or better. While he has no works since his last and comes into this race off a three week break, that is borderline for me to consider him. Exercise helps horses first to get in racing shape and then to maintain that fitness.
This will be one race that I will be sure to box a dime superfecta and "waste" $2.40. It this type of payoff potential that I have always mentioned over and over. The potential for a dime super returning $7-8K makes it a bet I will not let pass me by, but others can.
Bets: $10 WP 4($20), $5 Ex Box 2-4($10), $1 Tri Box 2-4-12($6), .10 Super Box 2-3-4-12($2.40), $1 Super Key 4 with 2-3-12 with 2-3-12 with 2-3-12($6). Total Risk $44.40.
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8th Race:
2)Dazzling Truths(20-1) Made four starts this year with a third his best effort. Here is a horse that actually proves what wotks can do to your fitness and form. His workouts pattern has been spotty and ineffective. 2 works in 23 days to prepare for first start in almost 5 months. Then wheeled back in 9 days and 18 days, which is ok but on outer edge of moving a horse forward. Then a 53 day layoff with 2 works a month apart and he ran flat. So the only reason I will use him in here is most seems like they would rather sprint and he wheels back yet again in 11 days, which is enough time to recuperate but still have what conditioning he got from his last effort left. Edge in a wide open field.
4)Can't Hide From Me(7-2) Unbeaten in three starts but now changes barn and has one slow work since his last effort. Not sure he wants a mile distance but his connections picked a good spot to find out. However, while field is fairly weak, he is be facing his toughest test yet.
1)Sovereign Impact(20-1) Claimed out of his last start by connections who tends to get the best results from their trainees. He has won 2 sprints, one at 5 furlongs and one at 6 furlongs, both on Indiana Downs speed favoring track that often helps front runners look better than they actually are. Has had very little impact in races away from that track. One fairly decent work since the claim.
11) Dabo(5-1) Only one in field that has proven that this distance is within his scope, but both wins have came in races restricted to state breds. His maiden win at 6 furlongs came against open breds and his last to first effort saw him beat my top choice in the first start of his career. He has several good efforts while overmatched in Turfway Park 3 YO preps for the Ky Derby. Sharp right now as he wheels back in two weeks.
Bets: $5 Ex Box 2-4($10), $1 Tri Box 1-2-4($6), .10 Super Box 1-2-4-11($2.40). Total Risk $18.40.
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9th Race:
6)Magic Wand(3-1) Wanted no part of Enable in last, but not many does. She has some races that makes her a contender for the win. Only difference,is she has tried the boys in top races on several occasions over here and ran respectable in them. like her stablemate, she contested Europe's biggest 3 YO fillies races last year.
1)Fleeting(5-2) Making first U.S. start after running in top 3 YO fillies races in Europe. Nicely bred horse who is bred along the same lines as the favorite in here. Only trainer that could possibly give Brown fits with his own handling of his fillies stars, though he is better in Europe when he does not have to travel half way around the globe.
7) Sistercharlie(8-5) Most likely will be odds on and I will try to beat. Makes 2nd start this year but like usual, Brown had her fit for her first test. 2 more good works and looks like that race took nothing out of her. Won this race last year in a contest between 3 Brown's trainees. One to beat.
5)Remember Daisy(30-1) Gets the acid test now but has shown some ability in her career. Though not likely to beat the top three, I will try to beat the rest in here with this one. No works since last, but trainer has farm nearby and probably has used it to keep her fit.
Bets: .50 Super Box 1-5-6-7($12), $3 Super Key 6 with 1-5-7 with 1-5-7 with 1-5-7($18). Total Risk $30.
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10th Race:
7)Valid Point(5-1) Has not started since early June but has the best workout pattern since, and Brown is the one I first started noticing it with. Unbeaten in two starts and bred well enough to make it three, especially since the distance has been shorten to a mile on grass.
5)Ry's The Guy(15-1) Broken his maiden two back and then won his first level allowance race in his last and first effort on grass. As his bloodlines suggests, he put in his best performance to date when entered on the correct surface. Definitely not out of this and could surprise. Sire, Distorted Humor, performed in top level on dirt throughout his racing career, but as a sire is better known as an off track specialist or grass sire. Broodmare sire, Royal Academy, won the mile BC Turf Mile in his last start and when on to be a leading sire in several countries for several years. He is a 1/2 brother to Terlingua, the dam of Storm Cat.
1)Clint Maroon(20-1) After three straight win on grass, his last two had good possibilities why he did not win. His first of those two was a little further than his bloodlines suggests would be his best distance and in his most recent start, he stumbled at the start and then had to circle 6 wide to get into contention, giving his opponents a decided edge. Since that start, he has switched barns and has turned in three good works. His sire, Oasis Dream, was a sprint champion in Europe while his broodmare sire, El Prado is sire of both Medaglia D'Oro and Kitten's Joy. Another that is in with a good shot at an upset.
6)Fog Of War(3-1) Has made 2 starts this year with the second a significant improvement over his first start. However, he will need to take his class up another level or two to compete against these. His sire, War Front, is leading miler grass sire since the death of Scat Daddy. His dam, Say, a royally bred daughter of Galileo out of G1 SW Riskaverse has yet produced anyone close to either parent. Therefore, I will bet the three I like better and make this one beat me.
Bets: $5 Ex Box 5-7($10), $2 Ex Box 1-5-7($12), $3 Tri Box 1-5-7($18), .50 Super Box 1-5-6-7($12), $1 Super Key 7 with 1-5-6 with 1-5-6 with 1-5-6($6). Total Risk $58.
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11th Race:
8)Captivating Moon(20-1) Made one start this year, finishing third in the prep for this race. Ran against good 3 YOs last year while never quite getting over type. New year and a freshening while giving him more time to mature could definitely be the answer. Two nice works since and he should be ready for the next step forward.
1)Robert Bruce(7-2) Made two starts this year, the first simply an out to get him fit. The second start saw him run 2nd to his stablemate, though he had the post position that tends to struggle compared to his stablemate who got another super trip from a post that tends to get good trips on Belmont inner turf course.
3)Bricks And Mortar(8-5) Is the favorite and deserving so. However, he is due for a not so good trip that will test his ability to overcome adversity that has taken many good runners down a notch or two. He is winding down his career as his breeding rights was sold to Japan and he departs after his last race this year, supposedly the BC Turf. Best U.S turf horse in training until someone knocks him down a notch.
4)Catcho En Die(30-1) Has made three starts this year and clearly been off form. However, he ran 4th in this race last year but was moved up to third via a dq of original third place finisher. Now on his fourth start since returning, including his first against the top two choices in here, I look for him to stick around because this field is similar to last year's field, with two horses dwarfing the others and he comes in not having a hard fought win he was coming off of, like last year.
Bets: $10 WP 8($20), $5 Ex Box 1-8($10), $1 Tri Box 1-3-8($6), .10 Super Box 1-3-4-8($2.40), $1 Super Key 8 with 1-3-4 with 1-3-4 with 1-3-4($6). Total Risk $44.40.
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12th Race:
7)Comic Kitten(15-1) 4 starts this year with 2 seconds. But after a mini break of two months, she was entered in an allowance race that the winner slowed the pace down to a crawl and was able to hold her safe in a final time that was on the pedestrian side for grass especially. She needed two more efforts to recover, including drawing the rail on Saratoga turf course, where winners rarely make an impact from. Now she is working on her third try since that good first effort try and look for her to come alive. She has the same monstrous Sadler's Wells cross as Enable, though thru two different sons and grandsons.
2)Aunt Hattie(20-1) Has made 6 starts this year. Working on her fourth effort since her last winning effort with her last being her best effort, indicating she is regaining top form. One work since that effort should help her to retain her form. Her sire, Camelot, came the closest to sweeping the English TC since Nijinsky turned that hat trick in 1970. Her broodmare sire, Danehill, represent the same sire/dam family cross that has produced many top European G1 winners and champions.
10)Art Of Almost(5-1) 5 starts this year, breaking her maiden in her third start, then a conditioned allowance in her fourth start before finishing 3rd against a good G2 field of older mares, just missing second. 4 good works since that effort should have her in her best form.
3)Lightscameraaction(20-1) 3 starts this year, winning her most recent effort, but with some room for improvement. She showed some promise as a 2 YO and will most likely show more promise as she reaches peak conditioning. 2nd dam, Cross Traffic, was a multiple G1 SW and her best son, Cross Traffic, a son of Unbridled's Song, also won the G1 Whitney H and finished 2nd in the G1 Metropolitan Mile.
Bets: $10 WP 7($20), $5 Ex Box 2-7($10), $1 Tri Box 2-7-10($6), .10 Super Box 2-3-7-10($2.40), $1 Super Box 7 with 2-3-10 with 2-3-10 with 2-3-10($6). Total Risk $44.40.
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By my calculation, I have listed $483 worth of bets I will make at Arlington tomorrow. So my goal this week will be to cash tickets worth around $1500. Anything more will be like gravy on top, and anything less will make me try harder again next weekend.
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2018.11.16 01:23 gscs1102 The Unresolved Mysteries Surrounding Abraham and Mary Todd Lincoln's Engagement and Marriage: Part 6

Part 5: https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9wv6pc/the_unresolved_mysteries_surrounding_abraham_and/

In this post, we will finally get to the actual marriage, and conclude our focus on contemporary testimony.

In late August, Lincoln was re-elected to the legislature.

On September 2, 1842, The Sangamo Journal, a paper strongly associated with Lincoln and his friends, published a satirical letter to the editor, written under the pseudonym Rebecca. Writing satires was common - again, no television etc., so people made their own little stories - and it's pretty funny to watch some historians interpret them as literal truth. That's not so in this particular case, but it is in others. Benjamin Franklin also used to write under a female pseudonym to newspapers, but he was actually pretending to be a woman, I think. This one was plainly fictional.

It is long and can be found here: https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln1/1:310?rgn=div1;view=fulltext

It deals with then popular political topics. One of them was politician James Shields, a Democrat, born in Ireland, who was State Auditor. Wikipedia has a photograph in which he appears as a sweet old man, nothing like how I imagined him. He was well known for his military service and excitable personality. Shout out to the reader who is related to him! Wikipedia gives a good summary of his life up to this point:

James Shields (May 10, 1806 – June 1, 1879) was an Irish American Democratic politician and United States Army officer, who is the only person in U.S. history to serve as a Senator for three different states. Shields represented Illinois from 1849 to 1855, in the 31st, 32nd, and 33rd Congresses, Minnesota from 1858 to 1859, in the 35th Congress, and Missouri in 1879, in the 45th Congress.
Born and initially educated in Ireland, Shields emigrated to the America in 1826. He was briefly a sailor, and spent time in Quebec, before settling in Kaskaskia, Illinois, where he studied and practiced law. In 1836, he was elected to the Illinois House of Representatives, and later as State Auditor. . . . He was educated in military science, fencing, and the French language by a veteran of the Napoleonic Wars, of which there were many in Ireland at the time. Shields attempted to emigrate to the United States in 1822, but failed when his ship was driven aground off the coast of Scotland, leaving him one of only either three or four survivors. He successfully made it to America around 1826, although his uncle whom he had sailed to meet had died.
Shields took a job as a sailor, becoming a purser on a merchant ship. However, after a time, an accident left Shields disabled, and in the hospital with both legs broken for three months. After the accident, he volunteered and fought in the Second Seminole War, reaching the rank of lieutenant.
He spent some time in Quebec, founding a fencing school. Eventually, Shields settled in Kaskaskia, Randolph County, Illinois where he studied and began practicing law in 1832, supplementing his income by teaching French. He served as a member of the Illinois House of Representatives, beginning in 1836, and in 1839 was elected as State Auditor. As auditor, Shields was involved in correcting the state's finances following the Panic of 1837. This was done, at times, through practices that proved unpopular.

So he was not someone to mess around with. The major financial issues happening in Illinois, which had bankrupted the state, made the Whigs especially hostile to him.

The failure of the State Bank in February, 1842, put a premium on ``sound'' money. State Bank currency was accepted only at a discount, and since other legal tender was scarce many transactions were carried on by barter. That Shields as State Auditor was acting in the best interests of the State in refusing to honor the currency of the State Bank was beside the point so far as Whig political tactics were concerned.

So then the letter appears. From the source:

The first of the letters signed ``Rebecca'' dated August 10, 1842, appeared in the Journal, on August 19, 1842. The author of this first letter was not Lincoln. In all probability the same pen produced it which had produced an earlier series of letters from ``Lost Townships,'' printed in the Journal on February 10, May 5, May 26, and September 15, 1838. The first of this series, dated January 20, 1838, has a number of interesting parallels in style to the first of the ``Rebecca'' series, and reiterates the correspondent's intention of sending the editor a present (a pot of butter in the 1838 letter, a jar of pickles in the 1842 letter) in such a way that one may suspect the editor of the Journal of bending his literary talent to stimulate rural subscribers, notoriously in arrears, to pay in produce.
Be this as it may, there is no satisfactory evidence that Lincoln wrote the earlier series of letters from Lost Townships, and Lincoln's own testimony is against his having written any of the second series except the second letter, which is printed here.

It is written from the point of view of a semi-literate woman named Rebecca - semi-literacy was incredibly common, and used for satirical effect. It's too long to post the whole thing, but I'll try and post the relevant parts:

I see you printed that long letter I sent you a spell ago --I'm quite encouraged by it, and can't keep from writing again. I think the printing of my letters will be a good thing all round,---it will give me the benefit of being known by the world, and give the world the advantage of knowing what's going on in the Lost Townships, and give your paper respectability besides. So here come another. Yesterday afternoon I hurried through cleaning up the dinner dishes, and stepped over to neighbor S--- to see if his wife Peggy was as well as mought be expected, and hear what they called the baby. Well, when I got there, and just turned round the corner of his log cabin, there he was setting on the door-step reading a newspaper.
`How are you Jeff,' says I,---he sorter started when he heard me, for he hadn't seen me before. `Why,' says he, `I'm mad as the devil, aunt Becca.'
`What about,' says I, `aint its hair the right color? None of that nonsense, Jeff---there aint an honester woman in the Lost Township than---'
`Than who?' says he, `what the mischief are you about?'
I began to see I was running the wrong trail, and so says I, `O nothing, I guess I was mistaken a little, that's all. But what is it you're mad about?'

I included that part just because it was funny, and to set the tone. It turns out what he's mad about the Democrats and their unwillingness to accept his currency for tax payments. Jeff offered to show Rebecca the proclamation that the currency was not being accepted.

`There now,' says he, `did you ever see such a piece of impudence and imposition as that?' I saw Jeff was in a good tune for saying some ill-natured things, and so I tho't I would just argue a little on the contrary side, and make him rant a spell if I could.
. . . `Beg pardon, aunt Becca,' says he, `but I do say its enough to make Dr. Goddard swear, to have tax to pay in silver, for nothing only that Ford may get his two thousand a year, and Shields his twenty four hundred a year . . .
And so he went on, till his breath run out, and he had to stop. I couldn't think of any thing to say just then: and so I begun to look over the paper again. `Aye! here's another proclamation, or something like it.' `Another!' says Jeff, `and whose egg is it, pray?' I looked to the bottom of it, and read aloud, `Your obedient servant, JAS SHIELDS, Auditor.'
. . . I read on till I came to where it says, ``The object of this measure is to suspend the collection of the revenue for the current year.'' `Now stop, now stop,' says he, `that's a lie aready, and I don't want to hear of it.' `O may be not,' says I.
`I say it---is---a---lie. --- Suspend the collection, indeed! Will the collectors that have taken their oaths to make the collection DARE to suspend it? Is there any thing in the law requiring them to perjure themselves at the bidding of Jas. Shields? . . . `And suppose the people attempt to suspend by refusing to pay, what then? The collectors would just jerk up their horses, and cows, and the like, and sell them to the highest bidder for silver in hand, without valuation or redemption. Why, Shields didn't believe that story himself---it was never meant for the truth. If it was true, why was it not writ till five days after the proclamation? . . . I say its a lie, and not a well told one at that. It grins out like a copper dollar. Shields is a fool as well as a liar. With him truth is out of the question, and as for getting a good bright passable lie out of him, you might as well try to strike fire from a cake of tallow. I stick to it, its all an infernal whig lie.' . . . And they don't care how plain a lie it is; they think they can cram any sort of a one down the throats of the ignorant loco focos, as they call the democrats.'

At some point, Democrats had starting calling themselves Loco-Focos, which was apparently the name of a brand of cigarettes. While they evidently thought this was a fun nickname, it sounded utterly ridiculous when used by their opponents, who were sure to do so. Lincoln would seriously and dryly refer to the Loco-Focos or Loco-Foco party wherever he could. Shields was in fact a Democrat.

`Why, Jeff, you're crazy---you don't mean to say Shields is a whig.'
`Yes I do.'
`Why, look here, the proclamation is in your own democratic paper as you call it.'
`I know it, and what of that? They only printed it to let us democrats see the deviltry the whigs are at.'
`Well, but Shields is the Auditor of this loco---I mean this democratic State.'
`. . . there's no mistake about his being a whig . . . every thing about him shows it. . . I seed him when I was down in Springfield last winter. They had a sort of a gatherin there one night, among the grandees, they called a fair. All the galls about town was there, and all the handsome widows, and married women, finickin about, trying to look like galls, tied as tight in the middle, and puffed out at both ends like bundles of fodder that hadn't been stacked yet, but wanted stackin pretty bad. And then they had tables all round the house kivered over with baby caps, and pin-cushions, and ten thousand such little nicknacks, tryin to sell 'em to the fellows that were bowin and scrapin, and kungeerin about 'em. They wouldn't let no democrats in, for fear they'd disgust the ladies, or scare the little galls, or dirty the floor. I looked in at the window, and there was this same fellow Shields floatin about on the air, without heft or earthly substance, just like a lock of cat-fur where cats had been fightin.
`He was paying his money to this one and that one, and tother one, and sufferin great loss because it wasn't silver instead of State paper; and the sweet distress he seemed to be in,---his very features, in the exstatic agony of his soul, spoke audibly and distinctly---``Dear girls, it is distressing, but I cannot marry you all. Too well I know how much you suffer; but do, do remember, it is not my fault that I am so handsome and so interesting.''
`As this last was expressed by a most exquisite contortion of his face, he seized hold of one of their hands and squeezed, and held on to it about a quarter of an hour. O, my good fellow, says I to myself, if that was one of our democratic galls in the Lost Township, the way you'd get a brass pin let into you, would be about up to the head. He a democrat! Fiddle-sticks! I tell you, aunt Becca, he's a whig, and no mistake: nobody but a whig could make such a conceity dunce of himself.'

Shields was apparently known to act as if he was God's gift to women, but I think the bigger issue is just that he was a big, dramatic personality who unintentionally amused people and made them want to incite him.

The dozens of later accounts included one by an "old settler" who had heard from another "old settler" that Shields had been squeezing Julia Jayne's hand in away she found inappropriate, given the norms of the time, and she'd been carrying around a pin to prick him with, which was common. (My grandmother carried a hat pin, for cases in which men exposed themselves to her in public - there has been a lot of discussion of this sort of thing this year, and what women have to deal with is nothing new.) Apparently she did this in front of Lincoln, who had been told of it by Mary, at some point. That is hearsay, but it seems quite likely that an incident like this gave rise to that part of the satire. The later accounts are hilarious because some of them are so obviously inaccurate. One supposed witness refers to the guns used, when for decades the story was always told as involving broadswords.

. . . `Jefferson,---Jefferson---'
`What do you want, Peggy.'
`Do get through your everlasting clatter some time, and bring me a gourd of water; the child's been crying for a drink this livelong hour.'
`Let it die then, it may as well die for water as to be taxed to death to fatten officers of State.'
Jeff run off to get the water though, just like he hadn't been sayin any thing spiteful; for he's a rall good hearted fellow, after all, once you get at the foundation of him.
. . .
And now Mr. Printer, will you be sure to let us know in your next paper whether this Shields is a whig or a democrat? I don't care about it for myself, for I know well enough how it is already, but I want to convince Jeff. It may do some good to let him, and others like him, know who and what these officers of State are. It may help to send the present hypocritical set to where they belong, and to fill the places they now disgrace with men who will do more work, for less pay, and take a fewer airs while they are doing it. . . . REBECCA---.

There are about 80 versions of what happened next, but the basics are as follows:

Two more letters appeared in the Journal on September 9: one dated August 29 was comparatively mild in its satire and written in the same vein as the first letter of August 10; the other dated September 8 was somewhat amateurish and made even more offensive personal allusions than those contained in Lincoln's letter. This fourth letter, written by Mary Todd and Julia Jayne, and a piece of doggerel signed ``Cathleen,'' which appeared in the Journal on September 16, presumably had much to do with James Shields' decision to demand from the editor, Simeon Francis, the name of the pseudonymous author. Francis may have given Shields Lincoln's name only, or Shields may have concluded on his own responsibility that only Lincoln could give him satisfaction.

It seems like Mary was hanging out with Lincoln again by this point, and they were having fun writing or reading these pieces and talking about Shields. Julia Jayne was Mary's best friend at this time. The third letter did not mention Shields and was likely written by Francis.

I will excerpt Mary's much later account because it illustrates the motivation, and is also hilarious. She manages to remove all responsibility/agency from herself, as though things occurred magically, and that Shields had made it inevitable. At the time she wrote this, Lincoln was dead and Shields was a well-known general. The story had been published in a popular biography of Lincoln. In a letter to the biographer, she claimed the account was accurate, but was embarrassed it was printed.

The poor Genl, in our little gay circle [meaning all the prominent Springfield people she and Lincoln socialized with], was oftentimes, the subject of mirth & even song . . The Genl was very impulsive & on the occasion referred to, had placed himself before us, in so ridiculous a light, that the love of the ludicrous, had been excited, within me & I presume, I gave vent to it, in some very silly lines.
"I presume." Shortly afterward, she wrote to a friend about it:

Gen Shields, a kind hearted, impulsive Irishman , was always creating sensation & mirth, by his drolleries. On one occasion, he amused me exceedingly, so much so, that I committed his *follies*, to rhyme, and very silly verses they were, only, they were said to abound in sarcasm causing them to be very offensive to the Genl. A gentleman friend, carried them off and persevered in not returning . . . them, when one day, I saw them, strangely enough, in the daily paper.

"Only, they were said to abound in sarcasm!" "Strangely enough"! I'm sure she knew they would be published, though I do think she had trouble reading how others reacted to her "sarcasm."

The sources all mention how women tend to be "too personal" and how these have a more "personal tone," and I guess that's sort of true, but it's still mostly just silliness that mocks more than just him.

The letter closed with:

"You say that Mr. S. is offended at being compared to cat's fur, and is as mad as a March hare (that ain't fur) because I told you about squeezin'. Now, I want you to tell Mr. S. that rather than fight I'll make an apology, and if he wants personal satisfaction let him only come here and he may squeeze my hand as hard as I squeezed the butter, and if that ain't personal satisfaction I can only say that he is the first man that was not satisfied with squeezin' my hand. If this should not answer, there is one thing more that I would rather do than get a lickin'. I have long expected to die a widow, but as Mr. S. is rather good looking than otherwise, I must say I don.'t care if we compromise the matter by— really, Mr. Printer. I can't help blushing, but I— it must come out— I— but widowed modesty— well, if I must I must— wouldn't he— maybe sorter let the old grudge drop if I was to consent to— -be— be—h-i-s w-i-f-e? I know he is a fighting man and would rather fight than eat, but isn't marryin' better than fightin', though it does sometimes run into it? But I don't think, upon the whole, that I'd be such a bad match, neither; I'm not over sixty, and a m just four feet three in my bare feet, and not much more around the girth . . . I'll tell you in confidence that I never fights with anything but broomsticks or hot water, or a shovel ful of coals or some such thing, the former of which, bein' somewhat like a shillalah, may not be very objectionable to him.
I will give him choice, however, in one thing, and that is whether, when we fight, I shall wear breeches or he petticoats, for I presume that change is sufficient to place us on an equality. Yours, etc., REBECCA."
"P. S.— Jist say to your friend, if he concludes to marry rather than fight, I shall only enforce one condition — that if he should ever happen to gallant young gals home- from our house of nights, he must not squeeze their hands."

The poem, signed Cathleen, told the story of Shield's accepting the widow's proposal. It was short and not very noteworthy, but it ended with:

And hands that in rapture you oft would have pressed,
In prayer will be clasp'd that your lot may be blest.

Essentially, Lincoln ended up taking responsibility for the women's doggerel and letter, because it was inappropriate for them to admit to getting involved in this type of controversy. He more or less laughed it off, but a furious Shields challenged him to a duel. Shields went to another town where Lincoln was attending court to confront him. Lincoln tried to play it down but apparently could not.

Duels were illegal in IL, and generally frowned upon, and Lincoln could have lost his law license. He tried to avert the situation, but felt he had to do it because it was a matter of honor. As the challenged party, he was able to choose the weapons. He chose broadswords, because he was way taller than Shields, with longer arms. He was hoping to avoid doing any serious damage, and thus did not choose guns. They traveled to an island outside Illinois's jurisdiction, popular for duels exactly for this reason. Their friends were able to smooth it all over and the duel did not happen. It was a major event in the community, and apparently Lincoln was quite embarrassed by having agreed to it for the rest of his life. He called it "the meanest thing he ever did in his life." The connotation of "mean" was somewhat different then - it sort of meant debased, low, vulgar. Basically, he was saying he'd never sunk so low in his conduct. Shields went on to be a successful general and politician, and seems to have been pretty friendly with Lincoln after this point. These basic details were confirmed by the parties at the time, and aren't really questionable. The involvement of Mary was not raised until later. It was later said that Lincoln finally explained that the women had written it (which was sort of a breach of etiquette, but since it was done privately among friends not a big deal), and apologized for his own letter, and people calmed down. This is likely. Shields probably knew that Lincoln and Mary were seeing each other and understood why he had taken responsibility.

On September 27, days after the planned duel, John J. Hardin's sister Martinette married Alexander McKee in Jacksonville. It is commonly believed that both Lincoln and Mary attended, as well as almost everyone else mentioned. Hardin was Lincoln's friend and Mary's cousin, and both he and Martinette were involved in a lot of the correspondence about Lincoln's breakdown. Hardin was killed in the Mexican War and remembered as a hero. This wedding will later become relevant.

By early October, the story was fully explained in the Springfield papers. This duel was actually widely reported on at the time, though Lincoln was not famous. It hit the papers in other states, and came up frequently for the rest of Lincoln's life. I'm not sure why, exactly, but it doesn't seem to be recognized how big this story was in 1842. It got much more coverage after Lincoln was elected, but Lincoln complained that it was the thing he was most likely to be remembered for (before his election). There were a lot of men involved because of the idea of "seconds" in a duel - friends who helped mediate it.

On October 5, Lincoln wrote Speed with an update. Whether he had explained to Speed what happened in an earlier letter or someone like Butler had informed him is unclear. I have omitted his comments on the drama among his friends (more duel challenges, fortunately none of which came to fruition). The end of the letter is interesting:

But I began this letter not for what I have been writing; but to say something on that subject which you know to be of such infinite solicitude to me. The immense suffering you endured from the first days of September till middle of February you never tried to conceal from me, and I well understood. You have now been the husband of a lovely woman nearly eight months. That you are happier now than you were the day you married her I well know; for without, you would not be living. But I have your word for it too; and the returning elasticity of spirits which is manifested in your letters. But I want to ask a closer question---``Are you now, in feeling as well as judgement, glad you are married as you are?'' From any body but me, this would be an impudent question not to be tolerated; but I know you will pardon it in me. Please answer it quickly as I feel impatient to know.
I have sent my love to your Fanny so often that I fear she is getting tired of it; however I venture to tender it again. Yours forever LINCOLN

Clearly, his impatience is because he's considering marriage. Typically this is interpreted as Lincoln asking Speed if he actually loves his wife, or whether he just feels like he did the right thing, presumably already confirmed by his expressed happiness (feeling, in addition to judgement, in other words). Looking at it now, it seems more likely that he is asking him to confirm both things. As in, the comment about his happiness is really unrelated to his satisfaction with the marriage - it is merely as statement that he is no longer suicidal over the decision to marry, and has accepted it. But now, Lincoln wants to know if he judges that it was objectively the best decision, and also if he *feels* like it was, which presumably means that he loves his wife.

When Speed gave Herndon these letters, decades later, he said the one thing that was clear was that if Speed had not enthusiastically said yes to both questions, Lincoln would not have married. The wedding took place on November 4th. Shortly afterwards, the Sangamo Journal announced:

MARRIED-in this city on the 4th instant. At the residence of N.W. Edwards, Esq., by Rev. C. Dresser ABRAHAM LINCOLN, Esq., to Miss MARY TODD, daughter of Robert Todd, Esq.

One paper announced that this time, Lincoln's "jump" had been into marriage, a reference to his window jump two years before.

On November 11, he wrote to a client/friend:

Dear Sam. Springfield, Nov. 11th. 1842-
Yours of the 10th. Oct. enclosing five dollars was taken from the office in my absence by Judge Logan who neglected to hand it to me till about a week ago, and just an hour before I took a wife. Your other of the 3rd. Inst. is also received. The Forbes & Hill case, of which you speak has not been brought up as yet.
[Business discussion omitted]
Nothing new here, except my marrying, which to me, is matter of profound wonder. Yours forever A. LINCOLN

This is one of the only comments on his marriage he is ever known to have made.

The next letter Speed provided is dated 1843, a noticeable gap, and he likely excluded intervening letters. Although from Lincoln's opening line, perhaps not. If he actually shared no information about his marriage, and it seems he had not shared much, that is in itself very interesting. After all that badgering of Speed for information about his experiences, he apparently didn't reciprocate it.

Dear Speed: Springfield, Ills. Jany. 18- 1843-
It has been a long time since I wrote you last, but you have not been forgotten nevertheless. [I omit a long discussion about business matters involving litigation and debt collection related to Speed's store etc.]
Mary is very well and continues her old sentiments of friendship for you. How the marriage life goes with us I will tell you when I see you here, which I hope will be very soon. Ever your friend A. LINCOLN

The next Speed letter:

Dear Speed: Springfield, March 24. 1843-
[Business discussion omitted]
We had a meeting of the whigs of the county here on last monday to appoint delegates to a district convention, and Baker beat me & got the delegation instructed to go for him. The meeting, in spite of my attempt to decline it, appointed me one of the delegates; so that in getting Baker the nomination, I shall be ``fixed'' a good deal like a fellow who is made groomsman to the man what has cut him out, and is marrying his own dear ``gal.'' About the prospect of your having a namesake at our house cant say, exactly yet. [Signature removed.]

Signatures were usually removed to be sold to Lincoln collectors. It is actually horrifying to read how many people admit they had personal letters, but didn't realize they were of interest to anyone (often times they were descendants of the recipients), and simply cut off the signatures to sell or give away, then trashed the letters. Much valuable information was lost that way.

Mary got pregnant immediately - their first child was born a few days shy of 9 months after the wedding. In recent years, this has led to theories that she seduced him and forced an immediate marriage. While they certainly may have slept together and finally married as the result, the assumptions that Lincoln was unwilling and that a child born a few days earlier than expected must have been conceived earlier are usually connected with a dislike of Mary. It seems the default assumption should be that the child was conceived on their wedding night, as the gestation period is not some precisely exact thing. The second most plausible is that they expected to marry soon and slept together, which finally eliminated Lincoln's reluctance to go through with the ceremony. The third most plausible is that Mary plotted to trap him into marriage, seducing an unwilling victim, and a blindsided Lincoln reluctantly agreed to marry her within days, before she could have suspected pregnancy. Lincoln was the type of guy who would take responsibility, definitely if she was pregnant, but probably even if she was "ruined." The sense of duty would probably have overridden his doubts. But given his letter to Speed and Speed's response, it seems like he was a mostly willing groom.

At least one proponent of the seduction theory also believes Lincoln was gay, which makes it weirder. Not that Lincoln couldn't have been pressured into it regardless, but it makes the whole thing less plausible. Proponents and others often make note of the fact that Lincoln had promised to name the child Joshua (or Speed, the name of Butler's son), and that insensitive Mary forced him to do otherwise (the child was Robert Todd Lincoln, after her father, Robert Todd). My reading of the letter is that it is almost certainly not a serious promise, but a euphemistic way of alluding to something that you weren't really supposed to comment on. She wasn't very far along at that time, so the due date was probably not clear, and women were generally expected to conceal their pregnancies from the public (not that everyone was that prudish, but they generally didn't go around shouting that a woman was pregnant). Whether Speed knew of the pregnancy or was just wondering if they were planning to have a child is unclear. It is also commonly asserted that Mary rejected the name because she did not like Speed. While not much evidence survives of the Lincoln-Speed relationship after this point, everything that does points to Mary liking both Speed and Fanny, and they liking her. They weren't close, but there didn't seem to be any jealousy, and Mary had been friends with Speed for years.

Next letter, from May 18:

[Long business discussion omitted]
In relation to the ``coming events'' about which Butler wrote you, I had not heard one word before I got your letter; but I have so much confidence in the judgement of a Butler on such a subject, that I incline to think there may be some reality in it. What day does Butler appoint? By the way, how do ``events'' of the same sort come on in your family? Are you possessing houses and lands, and oxen and asses, and men-servants and maid-servants, and begetting sons and daughters? We are not keeping house; but boarding at the Globe tavern, which is very well kept now by a widow lady of the name of Beck. Our room (the same Dr. Wallace ocupied there) and boarding only costs four dollars a week. Ann Todd was married something more than a year since to a fellow by the name of Campbell, and who Mary says, is pretty much of a ``dunce'' though he has a little money & property. They live in Boonville, Mo; and have not been heard from lately enough, to enable me to say any thing about her health. I reckon it will scarcely be in our power to visit Kentucky this year. Besides poverty, and the necessity of attending to business, those ``coming events'' I suspect would be some what in the way. I most heartily wish you and your Fanny would not fail to come. Just let us know the time a week in advance, and we will have a room provided for you at our house, and all be merry together for awhile. Be sure to give my respects to your mother and family. Assure her, that if I ever come near her I will not fail to call and see her. Mary joins in sending love to your Fanny and you. Yours as ever
A. LINCOLN

Several thoughts:

I don't know how Butler had so much inside information, but he apparently had no issues with sharing it. Mary may have been unable to leave the house at this point, because she would have been showing, and he could have inferred it.

Lincoln wasn't sharing much with Speed, apparently - had he never mentioned where they were living? One thing that has never been clear is when they moved into the Globe tavern. It has always been assumed immediately, but I think it is likely, especially if the marriage was as sudden as later asserted, that they stayed at the Edwards' home for some period of time.

This seems to confirm something I wondered about earlier - Ann Todd, who Speed courted to some extent, was her cousin, not her sister (who was unmarried and still living in Kentucky). Lincoln apparently accepts Mary's concise judgment that Ann's husband is a dunce.

He seems to want the Speeds to visit around the time Mary would be due to give birth, which seems inconvenient, but apparently both he and Mary were eager to welcome them.

He seems to expect that Speed should soon have a child, which never happened. So the idea that Speed was hopelessly impotent with women and this drove his fears about marriage seems to be a stretch, as Lincoln probably wouldn't have brought it up so lightly.

Next letter:
Dear Speed: Springfield, July 26th. 1843.
Yours of the 17th. Inst. is received. Your former letter of the 9th. of June was also received.
[Business discussion omitted]
We shall look with impatience for your visit this fall. Your Fanny can not be more anxious to see my Molly than the latter is to see her; nor as much so as I am. Dont fail to come. We are but two, as yet. Your friend as ever A. LINCOLN

Robert Todd Lincoln was born at the end of August, so they were apparently eager for visitors even with a newborn. The Speeds were not known to have visited at this time, but probably did later; I don't think the Lincolns ever went to see the Speeds, in part for financial reasons, although they met up with them at halfway points at least a few times.

After this, there is a huge gap in the record. The next letter to Speed that survives is not until October 22, 1846. After a long business discussion, it concludes:

I should be much pleased to see [you?] here again; but I must, in candour, say I do not perceive how your personal presence would do any good in the business matter.
You, no doubt, assign the suspension of our correspondence to the true philosophical cause, though it must be confessed, by both of us, that this is rather a cold reason for allowing a friendship, such as ours, to die by degrees. I propose now, that, on the receipt of this, you shall be considered in my debt, and under obligation to pay soon, and that neither shall remain long in arrears hereafter. Are you agreed?
Being elected to Congress, though I am very grateful to our friends, for having done it, has not pleased me as much as I expected.
We have another boy, born the 10th. of March last. He is very much such a child as Bob was at his age---rather of a longer order. Bob is ``short and low,'' and, I expect, always will be. He talks very plainly---almost as plainly as any body. He is quite smart enough. I some times fear he is one of the little rare-ripe sort, that are smarter at about five than ever after. He has a great deal of that sort of mischief, that is the offspring of much animal spirits. Since I began this letter a messenger came to tell me, Bob was lost; but by the time I reached the house, his mother had found him, and had him whip[p]ed---and, by now, very likely he is run away again.
Mary has read your letter, and wishes to be remembered to Mrs. S. and you, in which I most sincerely join her. As ever Yours---
A. LINCOLN

The "true philosophical cause" is unknown, but is speculated to be political, probably related to agitation over slavery that would have greatly worried Speed. It's not that Lincoln was at this point calling for abolition, but it was clear the country was destabilizing at this point over whether or not slavery could/should be extended into newly admitted states, and Illinois was generally against expansion. Lincoln definitely was. This strong resistance to expansion was making it clear that the south would probably lose power (if new slave states weren't admitted, they'd be outvoted), and that the result of it might be secession and civil war. The south generally felt that the north was making too big a deal out of these issues and stoking radical abolitionist sentiments. But it could be a reference to just about anything.

He has not corresponded with Speed about his election to Congress or the fact that he had another child. He does not give the child's name (Edward Baker Lincoln, after a political associate/rival he and Mary greatly admired). However, evidence indicates he may have never mentioned the names of his kids to his biological relatives, whom he was in contact with but did not see frequently. So who knows what was up with that. He showed Speed's letter to Mary, suggesting it contained some degree of personal remarks (or possibly Mary opened it without asking, but there's no reason to assume that). These are some of the only comments made about his children, and they are quite matter-of-fact. Bob did remain short (in comparison to Lincoln, which was a source of bafflement to the country, as though Mary's height didn't matter). He was their only child to live until adulthood, and as a result the only one whose full height is known. Eddie died at age 4 from some chronic illness (possibly tuberculosis). Which reminds me that I should mention Fanny did not have tuberculosis and lived until 1902. She apparently never said a word publicly about what she knew of Lincoln.

The word "whipped" is used more like "switched" - not arguing it was right, but I don't want people to think that they beat their young child. Accounts of other incidents have Lincoln switching Bob but Mary protesting. In any event, after Eddie's death, they seem to have given up corporal (or any other) punishment altogether, with a few minor exceptions.

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2018.11.02 04:38 Jed566 Week 10 SEC vs SEC matchup preview

Hello all! Welcome to the third in the series of fan produced game previews. Sorry this one is later in the night than normal, but I have had a busy week. But, its almost Friday and that means that SEC football is almost here! Before we get to the previews we need to look at the winner of the guess the score contest from last week. The winner is u/joblanco40 and South Carolina! Jo’s prediction was 27-21 SC which was just three points away from the actual score of 27-24. This brings the score to Tennessee 1 South Carolina 1.

Texas A&M @ Auburn 12:00 ESPN

Texas A&M perspective by u/TryhardTim of

HOWDY!

Well, that Mississippi State game left a sour taste in my mouth. Let’s hope that’s not a sign of things to come. (Also, shout out to Kirk Herbsteit, who (jinxed us on College Gameday last week)[https://twitter.com/tengland150/status/1056248973760102410])
This week, the Aggies will play their final road game of the season against the Auburn Tigers. It’s easy to call any game at this stage of the season an important game, but I want to stress how important it is for this Aggie Football team. We’re currently sitting at 5-3. One win will make us bowl eligible, but that was never really going to be a problem for this team. You see, this game is important because we need to build confidence before we hit the home stretch of the season. We *need a win this week. Let’s see how we can take care of business:
**WHAT TO WATCH FOR
*What’s an offense???? Sheesh, last week was ugly. Like, not ugly in a kind of cute way, but ugly in a I-want-to-go-throw-up- after-seeing-that way. We still have yet to score more than two offensive touchdowns in any SEC game this year (We even got to overtime in one of those games). If this team wants to get a win against the SEC equivalent of Jekyll and Hyde, they need to get their act together on the offensive side of the ball. Namely, they need to improve in the red zone, where they have an appalling 38% TD rate against SEC opponents this year. Another problem the Aggies had last week was dropped passes. Like, a lot of them. Anyone who claims that the gloves that receivers wear make catching the ball too easy needs to watch the Aggie receiving group last week. If the offense can get back to the form that we saw in the first 4 weeks of the season (Mond being accurate with the ball and making plays with his legs, actually targeting Jace Sternberger throughout the game), the Aggies will have a good chance to win this game. *Are we becoming the “get right” team of the SEC West? Nick Fitzgerald was on the verge of being benched before he broke out and had a season-saving performance against us. This week, we get to face another struggling QB who has performed well against the Aggies in the past in Jarrett Stidham. Aggie fans do not need to be reminded of the absolute beating we took last year at the hands of Stidham and now pro running back Kerryon Johnson. To prevent what happened last week, the defensive secondary, led by a (for once) non-suspended Donovan Wilson needs to do significantly better than how they performed last week, where missed tackles and giving up too much space to receivers were all too common.
**FINAL WORDS
This game is a relatively simple one to preview. If the Aggies show up and play to their full potential, they will win this game. If not, this game could get ugly like last week’s game, and it’s time to start panicking about the now possible chance that we lose to Ole Miss at home. I feel as though Jimbo Fisher will be able to get our players back in form, and we can win in a stadium where we have had success since joining the SEC. **#BTHOauburn #WarEagleTigers? #AtLeastTheLonghornsLostToo
Texas A&M 20, Auburn 14
Auburn perspective by u/patsey of
Hey Y’all!
A quick note to the AU family: Kelly Bryant visited campus! Gus is back on his recruiting horse, Bryant is obviously the “highest value free agent ever” filling the void Jalen's dad created.
On the Field:
Gus Malzahn’s system revolves around the rushing attack. Boobie Whitlow has been what passes for a breakout star but is injured and likely out. Also in that stable is a senior walk-on in Malik Miller and a pair of talented freshmen in Shaun Shivers and Asa Martin. Martin was the highest rated of them all as a prospect but has only seen 6 carries this year, his fumble in the A-State game a likely reason for this. Kam Martin the day 1 starter is almost negligible as he is simply never good for more than 4 carries per game.
All this may be a relatively moot point as the O-line has been just putrid. There is some talent there but none besides right tackle Jack Driscoll is even holding his own. This is unlikely to change this week as A&M boast the 5th ranked rush defense in the country. The question is can they get straight through our O-line to Stidham.
Malzahn and Lindsey will likely need to lean on the passing game, maybe quick passing game if they expect to defend their honor in the eyes of recruits. The problem is the O-line was inexcusably bad against the pass rush of Miss State. Driscoll was injured in that game and that hole may have been patched but this exposes Stidham’s most glaring weakness, the way he responds to pressure. When his spidey sense goes off he instantly tucks to run and does so with the grace of an old Peyton Manning.
The Culture War:
Named after a 3 hole stretch at August National, Amen Corner is the name Pat Dye gave to the last 3 games of Auburn’s schedule- at the time Florida, Georgia, and Alabama. AU Athletics has since broken up that uphill finishing stretch by adding a cupcake in between Georgia and Alabama week. That term may be applicable again if we are going to play A&M at this time every year. There is no doubt the tectonic plates of the SEC West changed when A&M entered the league, and Jimbo’s hire was an earthquake for the rest of the division. Bama have proven they are still superior, but we will see how their recruiting is affected. LSU will catch them last in what may prove to be the new battle for 2nd place in the West.
Auburn had become the third best recruiter in the West behind Saban’s Bama and Les’s LSU. With A&M in the picture we could easily find ourselves 4th, and a loss this Saturday will only fuel that shift. Mississippi State has something to say in this too as they beat A&M last week and effectively throttled Auburn in their stadium. Traditionally they are not considered a recruiting threat but we have to wait and see what Moorehead’s first class looks like. Going in to the LSU game this year AU Family had great reason to believe Auburn could capitalize on Gus being the last face Les Miles saw on the battlefield. That was not to be despite a 10 point lead in that game, and now we are seeing Coach Orgeron show up in Alabama during his bye week to recruit in our state. To read an extended look at how this affects the big picture go to PatrickBrickson.com
Auburn 22 – Texas A&M 19

South Carolina @ Ole Miss 12:00 SEC Network

South Carolina perspective by (the returning champion) u/joblanco of
South Carolina (4-3, 3-3) will be traveling to Oxford this Saturday to take on the Ole Miss Rebels (5-3, 1-3) in a cross divisional matchup that could be a good one. South Carolina was once again a terrible football team in the first half against Tennessee, continuing a trend that has just left Gamecocks fans everywhere completely stressed the fuck out. Tennessee was moving the ball down the field effectively and our defense was just being gashed by short and intermediate crossing routes. Guarantano rarely attacked the ball downfield, but he managed the team well and we were just out schemed in the first half, especially on the defensive side.
The defense wasn’t helped by the fact that South Carolina was just as worse on offense. Our running game was effective against Tennessee; we consistently set the edge and were able to get some good chunk runs down the field. It was just the passing game just would completely kill our momentum. Our passing game limited our offense to a point where Bentley received a healthy dose of booing for the second consecutive game. While Bentley did have his bad throws, that first half performance was NOT all him. Majority of the blame should go to the offensive coordinator, Bryan McClendon.
But!!! It all changed in the end of the first half. My own father, Deebo Samuel, just showed the SEC what just makes him so special as a player: one-handed grab in the endzone. He just absolutely saved Bentley too, because he definitely overthrew that pass. But it didn’t matter because Deebo is that dude and can jump to the moon. He gave our team the spark we needed to gain momentum into the 3rd Quarter, and we took advantage. Rico Dowdle (underrated football name, btw) just bullied defenders in that second half and finished the game with 140 yards rushing with a touchdown. His play, and Jake too, led our team back in another gritty, comeback win for the Cocks.
If they start slow against this Ole Miss team, then they might be going down a hole that will be too hard to get out. Ole Miss can be ELECTRIC if they get clicking. The game against Texas Tech was just a barnburner and Ole Miss looked unstoppable on offense. They’ve already scored more than 70 points twice this season. Led by the “Throwin’ Samoan” Jordan Ta’amu, this Ole Miss offense has weapons that can hurt the Gamecocks. AJ Brown is a first round pick (here’s a hot take: DK Metcalf is a better player), Scottie Philips is good, and they have a sneaky good tight end in Dawson Knox (another underrated football name). Their Oline is experienced, and Ta’amu is mobile enough to make plays with his feet.
This team is good on offense, but holy fuck they are awful on defense. They gave up 41 points to Southern Illinois. Southern Illinois. Do you know what the team name of Southern Illinois is? I bet you don’t. Don’t lie to me and tell me you do. They’re called the Salukis. The fucking Salukis. The only reason why you would name yourself after a Saluki, is probably because you’re an asshole. But that’s beside the point. Ole Miss is bad at defense. They lack depth at linebackers and the secondary (especially at secondary). Its so bad that they had to convert two running backs (who started this season as backup running backs!!!!!) into safeties. And these guys get meaningful snaps. If the Gamecocks don’t start fast against this team, then I’ve just lost hope that it’ll ever change while Bentley is at QB.
From a gambling perspective, this game is listed as a pick em’. I normally don’t like to bet on the Gamecocks, but this is looking to be like a win with some added value. I believe Will Muschamp will try to combat this prolific offense with an old school ideology: Keep them off the field. I think the Gamecocks run the football early and often against Ole Miss, and just milk the clock. Ole Miss has serious problems wrapping up, and the Gamecocks have good physical runners that can break tackles. Look for Deebo to get the ball out of the wildcat a bit more this game, and look out for sneaky big games from Ty’Son Williams and Mon Denson. I think the gamecocks play complimentary football with the running game, and make enough plays in the secondary on defense to maintain the lead against this high-powered offense. Also I'm pretty sure nobody will be at the game in Oxford since it starts at 11 am. So there's that too. Gambling tips for the game: South Carolina Pick em, UNDER 68 points.
32 South Carolina-27 Ole Miss
Ole Miss perspective by u/Rebbel228 of
This week the 4-3 (3-3) South Carolina Gamecocks visit Oxford and take on the 5-3 (1-3) Ole Miss Rebels. It’s going to be a great matchup for mediocre football provided to us by one of the worst in the East and the second worse in the West (thanks Arkansas). This is the first time these two teams have met since my junior year of high school when Ole Miss was ranked #4 and lost on a Thursday night in 2008, which personally is a game I’d like to forget.
(Editors note: the fact that these two teams haven’t played in nine years is ridiculous. We want a 9 conference game schedule!)
The Gamecocks are looking for their 5th win in hopes of becoming bowl eligible in the next 4 weeks. This is a must win for them, as Florida and Clemson are both on the docket for the month of November. South Carolina will be looking for some consistency this season after alternating wins and losses. They’ve been winning the games and they’re not supposed to and losing the games they’re not supposed to. Luckily for Ole Miss, that means this weekend looks pretty good for the Rebs.
Let’s be real. Ole Miss has been a dumpster fire this season. Granted, on paper, the Rebs don’t look that bad. They can score points. We all know that. They can’t stop the other team from scoring points though and that’s rough in today’s world high tempo offense. Ole Miss likes to score quick which doesn’t leave much time for the defense to rest. The key to this game will be the Ole Miss offense to play a good game with little to no mistakes and to for the defense to step up and make a few huge plays. Force turnovers, Jake Bentley has thrown 8 INTs this season and 1 or 2 turnovers can be very beneficial for the Rebs.
Mississippi is a sports betting state so I’ll throw a quick pick in. Pick your conscience. This game can really go either way, you’re picking the winner with this spread. This game opened Ole Miss (-1) but my local sportsbook currently (10/30) has this game as a PK. I personally am staying away from this game because I don’t like losing my money, but if I had to pick I’d take Ole Miss straight up, or whatever the point spread moves to by this weekend. From what we’ve seen of South Carolina this season, they start off slow and pick up in the second half. Ta’amu and Co. will have no problem scoring points early. This game will also most definitely go under 66.
It'll be an emotional game for both sides. Hotty Toddy, y’all.
Ole Miss 38, South Carolina 31

Georgia @ Kentucky 3:30 CBS

Georgia perspective by u/DuragofJupiter of
Following a cathartic 36-17 victory over the Florida Gators in Jacksonville, the sixth ranked Georgia Bulldogs will continue their travels as they face the ninth ranked Kentucky Wildcats in Lexington this weekend in what is certainly an SEC East title decider, as a win for either side would give them an insurmountable lead in the race to Atlanta. In order for UGA to return to Athens victorious, the offense will have to continue the (mostly) mistake-free play it demonstrated against the Gators, while the Bulldog defense will have to tackle far better than they have throughout this season to contain the Wildcats’ powerful running game, which is led by their star tailback, the bruising Benny Snell.
Offensively, UGA will need to be at their best against Kentucky, as the Wildcats boast one of the nation’s best defenses. Kentucky currently ranks third in Defensive S&P+, and they are particularly dangerous against the run, as the ‘Cats rank ninth in Rushing S&P+, while their passing defense is also exceptional, ranking 12th in Passing S&P+. Kentucky’s defense also achieves the difficult feat of combining excellence at preventing explosive plays, ranking 12th in IsoPPP, with a top-15 Havoc ranking. Finally, Kentucky’s defense excels when their backs are against the wall, as they allow only 3.09 points per scoring opportunity, good for fourth in the nation. In summary: they’re damn good, and they’re the unit that’s powered Kentucky to 7-1 and a top 10 ranking this season and Georgia will have to be at their best to even move the ball against a defense this dominant.
Fortunately, the Bulldogs have some experience with defenses as talented as UK’s as they’ve already played LSU and Florida this season. While Georgia was overawed by LSU’s speed and physicality in Baton Rouge, UGA’s work during their bye week in between the LSU debacle and the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party clearly paid off, as the offensive unit was far more consistent against the Gators than it had been against the Tigers. In particular, Jake Fromm was far more in command against Florida than he had been against LSU, as he went 17-24 for 240 yards and 3 crucial touchdowns, including a pair of excellently placed fadesto Jeremiah Holloman and a perfectly thrown crossing route to Terry Godwin. Fromm’s performance against an athletic Florida defense has almost certainly quieted the calls for Justin Fields to start, and he will need to continue his efficient play against the Wildcats’ dominant defense, particularly given some of the recent struggles of the running game.
While the running game has been a strength for the ‘Dawgs this season, their performance against Florida could have been better, as the Bulldogs stunk in short-yardage against the Gators, particularly in the red zone. This was highlighted by Florida’s goal-line stand in the third quarter, when Georgia had 7 tries to gain one yard following a Feleipe Franks fumble, and got pushed backwards. Of course, some credit is due to the Gator defense for their efforts, but the Bulldogs must be better against Kentucky in these situations in order to escape Lexington with a win. I’d look to see Elijah Holyfield get more carries as he’s a bit more physical than D’andre Swift, which could wear down the Wildcat defense in the second half.
While the Wildcats’ defense is certainly legit, their offense is a bit… shit. Kentucky ranks 109th in Offensive S&P+, and their passing game is somewhat atrocious, as presumptive starter Terry Wilson has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns this season. However, despite his inefficiencies as a passer, Wilson is a dangerous runner on the option and as a scrambler as he’s run for over 400 yards and 3 touchdowns this season, and he’s got fairly good speed, as shown on hisTD run against Florida. Luckily for Wilson and the Wildcats, star tailback Benny Snell has been able to carry the offense on his shoulders despite the struggles of the passing game. Snell has toted the ball 179 times for 935 yards, and he combines speedwith a nose for the endzone, as he’s found paydirt 9 times this year. Snell will often take direct snaps from the center in short-yardage situations, and he’s even tossed a td pass this season. While Kentucky does have a few other threats, including sophomore receiver Lynn Bowden Jr, it is clear that Snell is the foundation for all of Kentucky’s offensive success.
While it is no surprise that Kentucky will run Snell as often as possible, Georgia will still have to stop him, which will prove a tall task for Georgia’s underperforming run defense. Despite the talent level across the UGA defense, the Junkyard Dawgs have been pedestrian against the run, ranking 77th in rushing S&P+, and they’ve both struggled to inflict negative plays, ranking 77th in stuff rate, and to prevent opposing backs from getting into the second level, ranking 105th in opportunity rate allowed against the run. However, if UGA can leverage Kentucky into passing situations, the Bulldog defense should easily handle the Wildcat passing attack, and could hopefully force a few turnovers as Terry Wilson is forced to test future NFL players such as Deandre Baker, J.R. Reed, and Richard Lecounte.
While Kentucky is having their best season in more than 40 years, I’d expect their dreams of a berth in the SEC Championship to end on Saturday against Georgia. The ‘Dawgs are too complete on all levels for Kentucky’s offense to keep up, particularly given their struggles with the passing game. Kentucky’s defense will keep the game close, however, and I’d expect the first half to stay relatively low-scoring, barring a spate of turnovers on either side. Nevertheless, Georgia’s offense will eventually wear down Big Blue defensively, and the Bulldogs will leave Lexington with an SEC East title and a date in Atlanta with the winner of the Alabama-LSU game.
Georgia 27- Kentucky 13
Kentucky Perspective by u/B1ackMagix of
In a shocking turn of events, the SEC east will be decided in Lexington against Georgia and Kentucky. While I believe Kentucky’s defense is up to the challenge it’s do-or-die time for the offense. Kentucky needs to pay attention to the strong Bulldog opponents past games to hopefully find some keys to victory. Offense
We’ve got a match made for our offensive line. Georgia’s pass defense is top notch (9th in the nation) while their rush defense leaves something to be desired (clocking in at a much lower 43). Compare this to the games we’ve already played and we’re looking at teams like Texas A&M (5), Mississippi State (15), And Mizzou (28). We’ve got a large opportunity to let Snell, Rose and Wilson do what they do best as long as they don’t put a spotter on Wilson. Charge those lines and get some rushing yards. If there’s a game to let our rushing offense shine, it’s here.
Don’t be afraid of the RPO though. Wilson made some incredible passes in the past 8 minutes of the Mizzou game and I hope that confidence carries through. We’ve proved that Bowden is a weapon to be used and we should try to get him some good looks.
Defense
Georgia is going to keep us guessing. They like to balance passing with the rush and aren’t afraid to take shots down field when they feel they can. Our defense will need to play top notch to stiffen their offense. Georgia is tied right there with Kentucky as far as sacks allowed go so Allen needs to get his name out there early. Make the offense settle for short gain plays and try to keep them out of their rhythm.
Outside Influences.
The crowd is going to be a factor. We need to be loud and proud and support our team. I don’t see this being a big issue, but it should be a sellout crowd and we should have blue and white be as loud as possible. Saturday is looking cold and cloudy in Lexington, so we should prep for that.
I think this game is going to be close. If Kentucky plays the best game of the season, then we could pull out the upset but that’s a big if. I do think the game will be a lot closer than people give us credit for. Kentucky will play hard but unfortunately our offense is lacking. Our defense won’t be able to cover the slack the offense leaves behind but it will be a close game.
Georgia 28 -Kentucky 24

Missouri @ Florida 4:00 SEC Network

Missouri perspective by u/Marc1221 of
First off, before we get into this game, let’s review the debacle that was last week’s Kentucky/Mizzou Game. I sure hope that wasn’t anybody’s first experience watching college football. It would have been their last. Mizzou got ZERO first downs in the second half and still would have won if either a) the officials didn’t make the worst pass interference call since the 2002 BCS Championship game; b) the remaining crew had the balls to overturn it; c) they run the ball with a late lead and trying to take time off the clock (see SC also); or d) Barry Odom knew something about clock management. But, hey, in the end, this is Mizzou in a nutshell. We are on the wrong end of these game-changing/season- defining/legacy-making calls all the time. It’s a cliché, but if it weren’t for bad luck, Mizzou sports would have no luck at all. The 5th Down. The Flea Kicker. The 1960 KU Jayhawk cheaters. Michael Porter. Jontay Porter. Tyus Edney. Norfolk St. Northern Iowa. And on…and on… and on. Anyway…
I doubt Mizzou shows up for this game. The players are saying the right things…they still believe…they are behind their coach, etc. But Barry Odom is a dead man walking if they lose this game. And part of me would not mind that scenario. Like on Survivor, when a team loses a challenge on purpose to get rid of someone on their own team. A win could energize the team against a relatively easy schedule the rest of the way. And maybe sweeten the prospect of landing Clemson QB transfer Kelly Bryant. And Drew Lock, God love him, has not shown in 4 years that he can lead Mizzou to a victory over any team of significance. Mock drafts still show him as a first round pick, but I would not want to be the GM that made that call. Of course, these mock drafts are made by people with no NFL draft experience, but I see him going 3rd round or lower. His inability to deliver early in his career was explained away because he played 3 sports in high school; he didn’t have time to focus solely on football like his peers. But there is no excuse for 8 CONSECUTIVE three and outs in the second half against Kentucky. That was the Missouri offensive output. 8 possessions…8 three and outs. This team has the talent to contend, but whether it’s coaching or Lock’s breakdown against superior defenses, they find themselves at the end of the season needing a must-win in the 12th game to make a mid December bowl game. I’m not saying they are Bama ready, but eight 3 and outs? How is that even possible?
So, about this game. Florida is 11 in the latest poll and has a couple impressive wins already. Even though they are coming off a tough loss to Georgia, they have a lot more to fight for than the Tigers. They are good in all areas but not great in any particular one, but a better than average passing defense will once again neutralize Drew Lock. We will see how much the Tigers are committed to Odom and this season, and three of their 4 losses so far are against top 10 teams, and they did reel off 6 straight wins last year after a disastrous start to became bowl eligible, including a win at home over Florida, but again, this year had so much more promise. I think you can stick a fork in this team. They are done.
Florida 27 – Mizzou 17
Florida perspective by u/dcspringer (and his wife apparently) of
Florida comes in this week following a loss that a score suggest was more one sided than it felt. The game spiraled out of control in a matter of mere minutes for the Gators, and showed that perhaps they are not ready to contend for crown of the SEC yet. But they are close, and they can get back on track this weekend when a high-powered Missouri offense rolls into Gainesville.
The Gators and Tigers do have something in common, they both have a loss to Kentucky, but the similarities stop there. This Florida team is much improved over that Florida team that lost to Kentucky, and Missouri seems to have regressed on the season. This game is more important for Florida than many give it credit for. Dan Mullen is facing the large conundrum of keeping his team motivated. The Gators making the SEC championship game at this point is an impossibility. Florida holds the clear advantage in talent on both sides of the ball, and the biggest question will lie on whether Gator QB Felipe Franks will deliver a performance worthy of bang or a dud.
The Tigers have the 23rd best ranked passing offense in FBS ball in terms of YPG. Florida, with its 11th ranked pass defense, will look to shut down a Missouri pass offense that has seen its fair share of struggles recently. Missouri has done a decent job of keeping Drew Lock upright, giving up only 10 sacks through 8 games, and that includes a game at Alabama. Florida, on the other hand, has done a decent job of getting to the QB 22 times in 8 games. Getting to Drew Lock should be an important point for the Gator defense to disrupt the passing offense of the Tigers and give the ball back to the Gator offense.
The contractually obligated FSU wife preview:
Florida is a swamp ass garbage team whose players are as criminally inclined as its fans. Spending one second in the swamp is akin to spending an eternity sitting on a boiling hot pile of garbage. It is no wonder that the team is a trash bag full of smaller trash bags full of elephant sh*t. I and the rest of the conscious world look forward to continue to watching it implode for the rest of time until there is nothing left in its place except a work camp for the criminally insane.
(Editors note: yeah… this checks out)
Predication:
Florida has been a decent but not great team of running the football and using the spread offense. Think how the gators ran when Tebow was there under the glory days of MeyeMullen. Florida must do a better job of ball security and not allow Missouri to have their run of the field when they want. Expect Mullen to give Felipe Franks easy throws early and often to build confidence and allow UF playmakers to make plays in space. Missouri is a team that is as desperate, maybe more so than Florida is. But Florida just gets it done this week. They get off to a slow start due to the cocktail hangover, but open it up and get off to the races. Don’t be surprised if Mr. Jones shows up and shows out if things get fun.
38 Florida-21 Missouri

Alabama @ LSU 8:00 CBS

Alabama Perspective by u/dbatchison of
Oh man, oh man, oh man, I am excited for this game. Some people will say that this is Alabama's first test of the year. Despite us really dominating the Alabama/LSU series for the past 7 years, this rivarly has always been awesome. Coach O has brought some much needed life to the Tigahs and really is the perfect person to hold the reigns in Baton Rouge. When I was growing up, LSU absolutely dominated the series winning 7 of 8 between 2000 and 2007. I was a junior at Alabama for our 9-6 defensive slugfest and went to the championship game in New Orleans that year. Following the game, I experienced the perfect summary of what Alabama vs LSU is all about:
While standing in front of Fat Catz on Bourbon Street, a crying, gorgeous, blonde tiger fan yelled between tears and quick breaths "SUCK... THAT TIGAH... DICK, BITCH!" at me while throwing a full unoppened can of bud light, hitting me square in the jaw. She then ran up, hugged me, and started making out with me. Ending her passionate embrace, she shoved me away and stumbled away into the crowd, blending with the masses as quickly as she appeared, vanishing away into the night.
I believe this is a perfect summary of the Alabama-LSU rivalry. We love to hate each other. Corndogs, I expect a hell of a fight and am eagerly anticipating it. Roll Tide. I also believe this rivalry (along with the Iron Bown) needs a trophy. I suggest having a large, gold plated Gumbo Pot something this size mounted on a base with placards riveted around the sides of the pot featuring the games. The team that wins keeps it until next year. I don't like the name "the Saban Bowl" because this rivalry goes all the way back to the 1900s. It should be called something else, the "Boudin Bowl"... the Cajun Confrontation... the "At least we're not Mississippi" Showdown... the Corndog Combine... idk, something like that
35 Alabama-24 LSU
It really hurts me to say I have no LSU preview this week. Alas, 5 outa six aint bad. As always if you would like to write a preview pm me! It’s a first come first serve basis so even if someone wrote for your team this week they may be available next.
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2018.09.16 00:41 MRuchia Al Capone's Vault Wasn't Empty (Part 3)

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My feet crunch against a long gravel pathway. I’ve spent the past half hour on a quiet uphill climb through an old forest preserve. The birds are just starting to wake up around me, singing from the battered, timeworn oaks that stretch out in every direction.
The death of Martin and Maria Towers had been covered on the radio throughout the night. Apparently, the pair had been led from their car to a nearby stretch of forest, and executed without struggle. There weren’t many more details beyond that, except that the Towers’ car was undamaged, and they hadn’t been forced to a stop.
They'd pulled over to greet their killer.
The voice on the phone had given me detailed description of where I needed to go, telling me not to write anything down and to ensure that the last stretch of ground was completed on foot. It had taken me the whole night to get here.
After another ten minutes, stepping quietly through the pale morning chill, I pass under a rusting iron toll gate, and I find myself in front of a large log cabin. Two stories of dilapidated wooden panelling, besieged by creeping ivy which stretches up the walls and through the half-broken windows. Walking in a wide circle, keeping close to the treeline, it becomes clear that the only proper entrance seems to be at the front of the house, a black metal door that faces the path I’d just taken. It looks like it was installed far more recently than everything around it.
The place looks deserted.
I reach my hand into my bag, and softly grip the stun gun I snatched up from my apartment. It’s possible that the man on the phone had my best interests at heart, that all he wants to do is talk. But I’m already taking enough chances and, if half of what I’d heard recently was true, vigilance seems like its own reward.
The metal door is unlocked. It creaks as I slowly step inside.
The first room is small, with another iron door on the opposite wall. It looks like one part of a larger hallway, converted into a makeshift atrium and with sheet metal propped up along the walls and ceiling. The room is otherwise featureless, except for a small box, welded into the far door and covered by a lid. Making my way towards it, I run my hands across the sides. Eventually, I find a set of narrow hinges across the top of the box and, slowly, I swing the lid up.
As soon as the case opens my blood runs cold.
A lattice of wires and circuit boards fill up almost every inch of space within the container, wrapped together with neat rows of black tape. Beneath them, I can see a circular disk of dark green metal, the wires feeding inside at different junctures, the obscured symbols “M14” are written across the front. At the middle of the maze of electronics, the repurposed display of a digital watch reads 02:00.
The moment I see this, by some unseen mechanism, the door behind me swings shut, an electronic buzz and a hard thunk indicating an electronic lock.
“You shouldn’t have come here.”
The voice comes from every direction at once. From the droning, artificial quality, I can tell it’s being delivered through an intercom. It’s the same man who spoke to me over the phone last night. That same high pitched tone, gentle, assured and unsettlingly calm.
“I want you to think about what you’ve done. You should have just enough time.”
01:59
The display on the digital watch screen starts to run down, 2 minutes, becomes 1:55, becomes 1:50. My heart immediately bursts into my throat as the first few seconds tick away. Struck dumb by the almost incomprehensible circumstance before me. For a brief moment, I’m unable to breathe, unable to swallow back an almost primal surge of all encompassing panic.
01:48
Regaining control of my senses, I swing around to the outer door, twisting the small metal handle frantically, running my fingers along the edges of the sturdy frame for any conceivable flaw. Finding nothing, I pull back and kick the door with all my might. I feel a shudder down my ankle as my foot thuds against the unyielding metal.
01:13
My focus snaps to the room, glancing across the walls, floor and ceiling, desperately scanning for any inconsistency, any weakness in this old, dilapidated house.
00:58
With stilted breath, I turn back to the strange object that’s pulling every last shred of hope from the room. The maze of wiring and circuitry, enveloping a hard case of military hardware, will either kill me or leave me grievously injured if allowed to run down. Even so, the idea of accidentally causing it to activate early is almost as terrifying as watching the clock tick to zero.
00:48
I push the wires aside, reaching towards the dark green disc at the far back, examining every wire that leads into the thick metal casing.
00:40
With no idea what these wires might do, and no idea what might happen if I remove them, the only thing I can think to do is pull out every wire that leads into the metal casing, ensuring that no signal can be delivered to whatever lies inside. I can only hope there isn’t a failsafe built in, or the device might trigger with the slightest act of tampering.
00:34
I can feel the tears form in my eyes, as my shaking hands grip the wires. With a whimpering scream I wrench as many wires as I can from the device.
00:20
I stare at the clock, as it continues to count down. In a final frenzy of hopeless despair, I grasp at every loose piece of circuitry, tearing it from the door until I’m left with my hands full of plastic and metal, watching the final numbers count down.
00:10
In the midst of the final ten seconds, I turn away from the sight in front of me. Closing my eyes, I think about my dad, how he’s about to wake up in a world with no idea where I am, no idea what’s become of me.
I wonder if he’ll ever hear about me again. It’s my final thought as I brace for an impact that I’ll never even feel.
00:04
00:03
00:02
00:01
00:00
After a moment of darkness, I open my eyes.
Four zeroes lie across the digital watchface. What should have been the final second of my life, frozen in place.
I jump at the sound of the latch turning, my brain on a hair trigger for any mechanical noise.
Slowly the inner door opens to reveal a bare wooden hallway. At the centre of the frame, stands a man I’ve never seen before.
“I apologise” A familiar, soft voice begins. “I needed to…”
Without another word, I’ve pulled the stun gun from my bag and fired. The prongs hit the man in the shoulder and he instantly convulses into a jerking, writhing mess that collapses forwards onto the floor.
Stepping out of the metal container onto the creaking beams of the old cabin hallway, I kneel down, take his still twitching wrists and bind them together, the twisted lengths of wire I took from the bomb casing forming a strict restraint.
“Walk.” I pull the man to his feet and force him down the corridor. He stumbles over his own feet, a distinct limp displaying itself as we make our way to the room at the end of the hall.
We march into a large room, held together by thick wooden beams and lit by bare electric lights. Every inch of wall is taken up with maps, newspaper clippings and photocopies of redacted documents. A desktop with a row of screens displays upwards of twenty camera feeds from across the forest.
He’s been watching me since I left the road.
There’s a table in the center of the room, containing a bunch of unwashed dishes, a stack of random documents and a blocky, pre-90’s portable computer. I pull out a chair and drop the man into it.
He groans as he comes back into the picture.
“Are you… are you crazy?!” His attempt at a yell leaves his mouth as a pained wheeze.
“Am I crazy?! Are you fucking serious?!”
As I yell at the man, it occurs to me that my therapist wouldn’t be happy with any of this.
I stare the man down while I wait for him to speak. He’s around the same age as Ralph, lithe and narrow featured, his thin face covered with a messy mop of grey hair. He looks scruffy, his hair unwashed, his skin pale. God knows how long he’s has been living here, an old man in a broken house in a long forgotten forest.
“You were never in any danger.” He coughs out, defeatedly.
“Then why did you put me in a room with a fucking landmine?”
“It wasn’t a… it uh was the only way to know.”
In that moment, the threat seems to fall away from the man, at least partially. I can almost believe that he doesn’t want to harm me, but, if that’s the case, then his actions feel even more unspeakable.
“I’m sorry?” I meet the man’s eyes, anger still coursing through every fibre of my body.
The man looks down at the ground, almost ashamed, then after a few seconds, doubles down and looks back up to me with renewed conviction.
“The charge was a dud, but the mechanism was built to match a standard improvised explosive device. It could be disarmed in the timeframe but… you’d have to be a genius. Geniuses are the only people they’d send”
I stare at the guy, almost disbelievingly.
“So it was a test? And I passed because I was too dumb to solve it?”
“I suppose… if you want to put it like that.”
The man shuffles uncomfortably in his chair. As the adrenaline starts to ebb away, and my heart rate drops, I realise that I maybe shouldn’t have fired on the guy, especially considering his age. Then again, he shouldn’t have locked me in a room and tricked me into thinking I’d entered the final two minutes of my life.
I guess we’ve both been shitty people today.
“You could’ve just given me a word jumble or something.”
“No… no. It wouldn't’ work if you knew you were being tested. You could realise what I was testing for and... just play dumb. Of course you could be playing dumb right now. That’s always a risk.” He pauses. “But from how you’re actin’ at the moment I’d say you haven’t got anything figured out have you?”
I don’t know if it’s there’s a challenge in his voice, or if his multiple sleights on my intelligence were causing me to infer it, but I feel a sudden urge to prove I’m not a total idiot.
“On the phone, last night, you said I went to your house.”
I’m half talking to myself, getting the thoughts lined up in my head, but I can read in his face that I’m right.
“Ralph gave me two addresses.” I continue. “Yours was one of them, the other was Roger’s. The only reason you’d be in that group is if you helped Ralph steal those journals.”
He regards me for a moment, then he looks away.
“Well that’s obvious.”
I roll my eyes at his snarky dismissal, though I’m suddenly feeling a little more at ease. As crazy as this guy seems to be, as unforgivably fucked up as his first impression was, I’ve clearly convinced him that I’m not his enemy, which I hope means he isn’t mine either.
Still, I’m not untying him until I understand what’s going on.
“Walter… is my name…” The man begins. “And yes, I was with Ralph and Roger during the show… and I was there for everything that came after.”
He rests back in his chair, I can tell he’s thinking back through those past thirty years.
“What happened between you guys?”
Walter sighs.
“You mind making some coffee? I just woke up when you set off my alarms, I’m not usually up this early.”
I almost laugh at his request. Then I realise I could probably use a cup as well. Over the next few minutes, I keep my eyes on the guy as I make my way over to an old, partially broken coffee maker, pour in enough water for two cups from a small brass tap, and let it run.
He doesn’t seem to try anything, but as I arrive back in my chair, with nothing in the air but the juddering sound of the coffee maker, he lifts his hands up as a meek gesture.
“Do you mind untying-”
“Talk.”
The old man drops his hands and shuffles uncomfortably, preparing his story as the coffee maker whirrs in the background.
“Well, we stole the journals… then we read them. We saw the forces we were dealing with and uh… well it broke us apart.”
“In what way?”
Walter looks at me with total confusion.
“Isn’t it clear? You’ve read it right? I mean, god damn it’s the fucking illuminati!” His voice grows impassioned, almost angry. “It’s the New World Order, it’s the… the force behind the curtain. Those journals contain the only recorded interaction with an organisation we otherwise have NO evidence of… an organisation which apparently influences the advancement of our world. Do you have any idea what they’d do if they found out that we’d read them?”
“You’re really that scared of them?”
“That’s right and you should be scared too.” He leans back in his chair. “They’re the real deal Ms Polanca. My research over the years has shown me as much, but I realised what we were dealing with right then and there. I wanted the journals destroyed, removed from existence before someone found out that we had them. Roger disagreed, didn’t care about Souza or his people at all, he was itching to sell all three journals to the highest bidder as soon as the heat cleared.”
“And Ralph?”
“Ralph? He was right down the middle. He was worried about Souza same as me, knew selling the journals could be the end of us, but he just couldn’t bring himself to destroy them. ”
Walter takes a moment, soberly gathering his thoughts. I can tell the story is about to get unpleasant.
“For a while we just didn’t talk about it. We were more worried about being discovered, by the studio, by the crew, by Souza’s people. Once we knew no one was comin’ for us, that was when the arguments began. Roger wanted to sell, I wanted them gone… Ralph tried to fight the middle ground, kept the journals in his house since we only trusted him to keep hold of them.”
The coffee maker shudders to a halt, spitting dark liquid out of a broken nozzle. I keep my eyes on Walter as I pour out two full coffee cups and place one into his hands. With some difficulty he raises it to his mouth and takes a pained sip.
“I was happy with Ralph keepin’ them, as long as I could keep an eye on him. But Roger? He grew angrier with every passin’ day. In his mind we were holdin’ his fortune to ransom. Those journals were going to bring him everything he wanted, fix everything that was wrong with his life. First he complained, then he yelled, then…”
Walter gestures to his leg, the one he’d been limping on earlier.
“He came after me first. He knew Ralph wouldn’t tell him where he put the journals, wanted me as leverage. Cracked my leg in two places to stop me runnin’, held me in my own home for 48 hours while he waited on Ralph to meet his demands.”
“Did Ralph give him the journals?”
Walter sighs.
“Roger set up a location to meet, told Ralph no cops, no tricks. Of course Ralph agreed. Roger threw me in the trunk of his car, took me out to the edge of town… when he opens the trunk again he’s the angriest I’ve ever seen him. Picks me up, throws me to the ground and drives away.”
Walter takes a gulp of coffee.
“Ralph didn’t show up at the meet, in fact I didn’t see him again for another 30 years. He cleared out his apartment while Roger was holdin’ me, disappeared in a puff of smoke and took the journals with him. Suppose it was the best idea, Roger didn’t get what he wanted and I lost my use as a hostage.”
“Are you surprised that Roger let you go?”
“Why not? I wasn’t worth anything to him, and he knew I was too scared to call the cops.”
Walter shakes his head.
“We never heard from Ralph again. Roger tried everything, eventually joined the Chicago Police Department, no other reason but to help him track down his precious journals. He had a pretty illustrious career but he never found Ralph… not until recently that is.”
I feel the dull thud of a stone dropping in my stomach.
“... Roger found him?”
Walter visibly sinks down, then responds with a meek nodding action.
“I tried to find him first.” He says, a break in his voice. “I just managed it as well. Found him living alone not too far away, with this whole other life... but it was too late. Roger got to him around the same time.”
“They said he died of natural causes.”
“Of course they did. Roger was a cop for twenty years. He knows what the police look for. You ever wonder why the police came by your place so quickly after he executed the Towers?”
“Wait... he’s framing me?!”
Walter shrugs, as if to say “I guess so.” In light of what I’ve learned, I’m becoming increasingly glad that I jumped out the window when the cops came by my apartment. What I thought might have been a misunderstanding was now something much darker and, if it came down to it, the testimony of a ex-juvenile offender vs the word of a retired cop? I know who I’d bet on.
“... Fuck.”
“Fuck indeed.” Walter takes another sip of coffee. “Roger wants the journals. After what happened with Ralph, he could have one, two or none in his possession but he certainly doesn’t have them all. He’s not going to stop until he gets them, and if ruining your life somehow helps him then that’s what he’ll do.”
“... But he’s not the one you’re hiding from is he?”
He looks up at me, then briefly glances around the room. It’s as if he’s just realised what this place looks like from an outsider’s point of view, the countless stacks of circled photographs, decades worth of strange documentation that litter the otherwise neglected space. There’s someone else in the room, and maybe there has been for the past 30 years, their presence is written over every surface.
Souza’s organisation has remained with Walter since the day he read those journals.
“You’ve looked into them?” I ask, the implication hanging in the air.
Walter nods, when he next speaks, his voice is almost instinctively lowered.
“I know more about the organisation than anyone else on this planet, and I know almost nothing.”
“Well, what do you know?”
“I know they’re still out there.” He whispers. “I know they never went away. Sure the Chicago Outfit held power over a city in the early 1900’s but these guys… they’ve held the world in their hands for centuries. They recruit the brightest minds in every generation, and they’re capable of removing anyone who gets in their way… how many of the journals have you read?”
“... Just one.”
“Ralph’s I’m guessin’? Well trust me, Colosimo and Frank Capone were child’s play compared to what they can do. Maybe I’ll let you read mine some time, they really step up their game.”
“I thought you didn’t have your journal.” I look over at him curiously.
“I have the most important entry as an encrypted file on here.” He nods his head towards the old computer. “Along with a lot of other useful stuff. Password’s a military secret of course...”
Walter places his hands against the table and lifts himself onto his feet.
“Anyway, there’s nothing I want from you that we can’t discuss later. In the meantime, do you mind?”
He holds out his wirebound wrists towards me. I stare at him for a moment, taking the time to reload the cartridge of my stun gun.
“Another shot with that thing would probably kill me you know.” He states seriously.
“Best not try anything then.” Half joking, I start to pick apart the knot I made in the wire.
*****
As the day passes, I start to get a more developed idea of the man Walter is.
Once I let him go, he makes no attempts on me. In fact, he makes a point of showing me the exits to the building in case the police track this place down.
With nothing else to do, I take a the time to look through his research.
The pins on the wall mounted map span far beyond Illinois, their dates of activity far beyond the Prohibition Era. Souza’s organisation is apparently much older than I could have imagined, their residence in the Chicago tunnels just a small step on a seemingly timeless journey. A dozen documents line the walls, the final transmissions of Amelia Earhart, the 1954 guest list of a hotel in “Oosterbeek”, an 18 page transcript with three speakers; Richard, Bob and “Unknown”. Hastily circled lines across every page paint a strange, esoteric picture.
I make a note to read through them all later. In the early afternoon, having looked through everything Walter has on display, I sit down in one of the chairs as the strange old man tends to his house. Having been awake all night, I place my folded arms on the table and rest my head against them, seeking the respite of a half hour nap.
It’s dark outside when Walter shakes me awake.
“We need to leave now.” He says, his voice quivering, his eyes alight with alarm.
I raise my head from the desk and stare at Walter, then I look over his shoulder at the camera monitors. A dark shadow is passing up the grey gravel path at harrowing speed.
“Is it the police?”
“No…” Walter almost whispers. “No. It’s him.”
The words drop from Walter’s mouth, each syllable weighted with dread. Looking down at his shaking hands, I can see he’s holding a silver, 22. calibre handgun.
I grasp for my bag, pulling myself to my feet. I can hear the distant sound of tires on gravel as whatever’s outside rolls to a halt. The slamming of a car door is followed by a series of quick footsteps… then nothing at all.
“He’d know I have cameras set up… he’s trying to rush us. Come on.” Walter grabs my arm and attempts to force me out of the room.
“Where are we going?”
“I have a car out back.” Walter sounds more panicked with every word as he limps through to the back of the house, leading me to the rear door.
“I knew bringing you here was a mistake… not your fault, you weren’t prepared… ” Walter admonishes both of us as he checks through a hole in the wooden door and unbolts all four locks.
He rests his hand on the door, as if building up the courage to face the world outside.
“There’s a small path through the woods that leads onto the rear road.” He whispers. “I got the car hidden there. Keep low and keep quiet.”
Walter desperately tries to follow his own advice as he walks unevenly over a bed of leaves and rock. As we pass between the branches, as we get a brief view of the gravel road far behind us, I can see the deep red Chevrolet, waiting in the darkness for its owner to return.
Roger himself is nowhere to be seen around the cabin. But through my tired and fearful eyes, every falling shadow takes the form of his looming figure.
Glancing over my shoulder, I hear Walter pick up the pace. Turning back around, I see him impatiently stumbling towards the dark green mound that stands in a small clearing.
Branches snap underfoot as we close the precious few metres towards the empty patch of woodland, the mound slowly revealing itself as a cover of green netting lying across an old sedan.
Leaving the house behind us, we creep into the clearing.
“Wait-” Walter attempts to speak as he sees the moonlight streaming across the hood of the car.
It’s been lifted up.
Moments later, a dark, hulking figure steps out from behind the raised sheet of metal. Roger stares at us with a sickening smile, a gun held at his side as he brushes his gloved hand against his jacket, wiping off the remains of a slick, pearlescent liquid. As my eyes travel down, I can see a thin trickle of gasoline spilling out onto the ground from the car’s chassis.
“Something’s wrong with your fuel lines Walter.”
Walter doesn’t hesitate. With a panicked whimper, he sweeps up a shaking gun and immediately fires. The bullet slams into Roger, hitting him centre mass, the thud of the impact is followed by a hard grunt. In immediate response, Roger swings his gun arm around and fires two shots from a glock into Walter’s already injured leg. The noise of each shot is deafening, but it dies quickly in the dark, deserted forest.
Walter’s cries don’t fade as quickly, he falls to the ground cradling his bleeding leg, wailing into the indifferent night air. Roger looks winded, pained, but perplexingly resilient to the effect of Walter’s shot.
“See I came prepared.” Roger steps forward, unbuttoning the top two buttons of his coat to reveal a thick, black, polymer vest. “Top of the line, that was a fast draw though I’ll give you that.”
Walter tries to raise his gun again but Roger has already reached him. He presses Walter’s gun arm down with a hard leather boot, and kicks his automatic back towards the car, where it lies out of Walter’s and my reach.
I’m frozen in place, staring at the gun in Roger’s hand. Even without it, the man towers over me, easily capable of knocking me down with a single blow.
“H… how did you find me?” Walter cries.
Roger laughs, he looks like he’ll take great pleasure in answering that question.
“Oh, I’ve always known where you were Walter. I’m on all your forums too… been keeping a close eye. You never wondered why I found Ralph the same time you did?”
Roger smiles as Walter’s eyes grow wide with horror.
“It’s almost over.” Roger continues. “I got two of’em; yours and mine. I just need Ralph’s and you’ll never see me again.”
Roger leans in close to Walter, whilst still keeping me firmly within his line of sight.
“If not for your sake, then for hers, tell me where it is.”
Tears start to flow down Walter’s cheeks as he replies. I clutch my bag instinctively close as I wait for his reply.
“It’s...” Walter turns round to face me. He looks terrified. He then turns back to Roger, breathing through the pain. “It’s a… military secret”
In the brief seconds that passed between us, I saw his fear, but I also glimpsed look of defiance and determination his eyes. In that moment, I knew he’s not going to tell Roger where the last journal is, at least not for now. Instead, I have a feeling he’s risked the almost certain threat of pain and torment to tell me something important. In that instant, I think I know what he wants me to do… I can only hope I’ve got it right.
Roger’s brow furrows at the answer. Without a word, he raises his gun high above his head and throws it down with full force. I hear it crack sickeningly against Walter’s head as the impact drives his cheek against the ground.
An injured, defeated yelp escapes from Walter’s mouth, followed by desperate gasps as he tries to battle a tidal wave of pain.
In his swift punishment of Walter, Roger’s eyes leave me for just a second, but it’s time enough for me to pull the stun gun out of my bag and point it right at his chest, willing myself steady, knowing I only have one shot.
Roger smiles.
“Do you have a license for that?”
He taps his chest.
“I’m sorry doll, but if a bullet can’t get through here-”
I pull the trigger on the stun gun. I hardly see as the prongs as they scissor through the night air. As soon as they land against Roger’s chest, I turn and run, a wave of heat bursting out behind me as the gasoline on his jacket ignites.
I hear Roger yell in frustration, the frantic struggling with his jacket then, far too quickly, a bullet whizz past my shoulder as I duck into the trees and back to the cabin.
As my feet hammer against the soft ground, I hear a final yell from Walter as he fights to hold Roger back. I focus on the space ahead of me and try to block out the noise.
I burst into the back door of the cabin, stumble into the main room and make my way towards the old computer on the table. As I haul it up, the weight hits me. It’s bulky and awkward, but at least it lifts up in a single piece.
Walter wanted me to save it.
I hear a frantic yell, followed by two more gunshots deep in the forest.
Carrying the computer under my arm, I sprint down the hallway through the metal room and back outside.
I can hear Roger leaving the forest as I sprint over to his car. Finding the door unlocked, I climb in and rest the computer on the passenger seat, next to an old, portable police siren.
I’d stolen a car before, an act which led to one of the most awful moments of my life. I never dreamed I’d be doing it again, but as I forcefully hammer and tear away at the panel adjacent to the antiquated three spoke steering wheel, I find myself right back where I was at 17 years old.
I can hear Roger marching through the cabin. It won’t be long until he arrives out the other side and sees exactly what I’m trying to do.
As I manage to roughly cut away at the plastic casings of the ignition and battery wires, I look up to see the figure of Roger, his dark silhouette at the threshold of the cabin.
He covers the ground towards the gravel road quickly, crossing under the shadows of the trees and back into the moonlight. In a brief moment, as he’s revealed by a break in the canopy, I see his arm start to raise.
Instinctively I throw myself down against the passenger seat, my head hitting the corner of the old computer as three shots echo through the night and the windshield explodes shattered glass onto the leather seats.
In a last ditch attempt, I drop the handbrake, feeling a lurch as the car rolls backwards down the hill and back to the road. A crescendo of gravel crackling and snapping as I accelerate away from the cabin. I can hear a separate hammering on the gravel path in front of me, as Roger battles to keep pace with the car.
As two more shots echo into the night, one ricocheting off the metal of the car, I grab the wires and force the exposed copper together.
The engine roars into life. I throw the car into reverse and accelerate backwards, staring from below the dashboard into the gap in the treeline, using it to keep the car straight. As I hear Roger’s faltering steps quickly fade into the night, I pull myself up and press my foot onto the gas.
Minutes later, I feel a distinct lurch as the back wheels level out, and see the environment shift instantly as I burst out of the treeline onto the main road. Sick of reversing all that way, I’m relieved to I shift into first and leave the forest in my rear view mirror.
There’s not much to say about the rest of the night. I manage to ditch the car near a small town, walk the next few miles to a small bus station and catch the very next one out in the morning. I skirt around Lake Michigan in the direction of Chicago and ask to get off once I see a cheap looking motel.
I give a false name, pay in cash and put a do-not-disturb sign on the door. As soon as I twist the lock, I set up the old computer and attempt to boot it up.
It’s been thrown around a lot tonight, but it still manages to turn on quickly enough. The password screen shows a generic background, a picture of a sunrise over the an island, as well as a space for a 12-digit code.
It takes me a while to figure out what the access code is based on Walter’s clue, and I won’t spoil it for anyone who wants to figure it out for themselves, but once I manage to get through, the screen explodes into a stack of files and folders. I spend over two hours searching through them, running on fumes and the sort of black tar coffee that 2-star customer service provides.
I find another one of those strange chessboards, as well as a link to that strange web ring people have been messaging me about. It looks like it's connected after all.
After another half hour, I finally stumble across Walter’s transcription of his journal entry, nestled in the back of the back of the back of some cryptically named folder.
I’ve left it below for you guys to read through.
After I finished typing everything up, I have to say I felt at a bit of a loss. In every idle moment I could feel Roger searching for me, making plans against me with hands that had already killed at least three people. His connections within the police, the possible threat of Souza’s organisation, and my developing connection with the death of the Towers have isolated me completely. I can’t go to the authorities, I can’t go home, I can’t go anywhere near my father with all this trouble following behind me.
After a moment however, as I stare at the virtual sunrise on the computer, with the real life dawn far far away, I start to feel something other than loneliness and fear. I start to get angry, angry at the world I’ve found myself in, angry at the pain and exhaustion it has caused me, and most of all, angry at the figure behind it all, Roger, who’s refused to let me out of a world I never wanted any part in.
I’m going to sleep now, but once I finally recover from the past two nights of lethargy, fear and torment, I’m going to find some way to turn the tables on Roger. I have something he wants, something he needs, and I’m going to make sure he never gets a hold of it.
Tomorrow morning, I’m going to find a way to stop Roger from ruining my life.
Then I’m going to ruin his.

Journal Entry; 1925

The next time we met Mr Souza, Al had half a mind to kill him.
The meeting had been set up by Souza himself, with the blessing of Torrio. Al wasn’t sure why the guy wanted to talk with him, but he wasn’t going to pass up a chance for a confrontation.
More than a year had passed since Al’s last meeting with Mr Souza. After breaching the man’s trust and refusing to apologise, Souza had announced “immediate punitive action” would be taken. Al had shrugged it off as a hollow threat, but later that same day, a couple of Johns in civilian clothing pulled up to the polling station on Cicero Avenue and, without warning, opened fire on some nearby hoods.
Of the three who found themselves under fire, two managed to get away.
The only one who didn’t make it was Frank Capone; Al’s big brother.
The grief came first. A coffin plated with silver, a motorcade more than a hundred cars long, more flowers than I’d ever seen in one place. Al spared no expense in putting his brother to rest He even closed his businesses for a time, something I never thought he’d do, just to ensure everybody had time to contemplate Frank’s loss.
As soon as he stepped out of the Mount Carmel Cemetery, the anger set in.
But even through the rage, Al was a survivor. He was smart enough to know that he was dealing with someone powerful. Colosimo and Frank had been removed perfectly, with the culprit either in endless dispute, or protected by the full force of the law. If Souza was responsible for both, then he had men on both sides of the city working for him.
Al has all kinds of anger inside of him. This one burned cold, a patient rage that he kept under wraps, until he knew for sure what Souza had done, until he had his chance for revenge.
When his chance came, it was me, Souza and Al, sitting alone on a quite street beside one of Al’s cafes.
Al laid out his accusation to Souza, ready to hear his response. He wasn’t ready for how calmly Souza confirmed his suspicions.
“There are two things I must tell you, before you take any action.” Souza stared blankly at Al, but I got a sense that he wasn’t as confident as he was letting on.
“I should warn you, and I consider this the least important reason to keep me alive, that it would not be without consequence.” Souza looks down, as if he finds it distasteful to say what comes next. “Out of the world’s ten best recorded marksmen, eight are under my organisation’s direct employ, and three of them currently serve as my own personal guard. They are swift in their actions, both preemptive and… retaliatory.”
I look around the buildings as he says so. I can tell Al’s doing the same. I don’t see nobody, but after all my dealings with Souza, I take the man at his word.
Souza continues.
“Secondly, the action taken against you was not my choice. I believe I said as much at the time?”
He looks at me. Al follows and nods for me to tell him what I heard that day.
“He uh… he did say…” I stumble over the words. “He was willing to let the uh... transgression pass, but his organisation was accustomed to a… certain standard of restitution.”
“A grim way to put it, in retrospect.” Souza sips his tea. “I protested the decision, as best I could, but eventually I was deemed too close to events in question. I had no sway over the punishment’s final form. What little influence I had was expended, when I convinced them to spare both your lives.”
“And why would you do that?” Al growls.
“Like I said, I am a scientist, and an investor in people. You are currently the subject of an experiment which I have taken a personal interest in.”
“Experiment?”
Souza smiles briefly.
“My organisation is comprised of this century’s greatest minds; across the scientific, political, and philosophical realms. I hypothesised that the... successful criminal mind, could represent an untapped resource for our order. That such a honed and unique intelligence, accustomed to high strategy and free from moral constraint, deserves a place amongst our ranks.”
“You want me to join your little Outfit?”
“Should the experiment prove successful.”
“Huh… and what’s in it for me?”
“An Empire, beyond anything you could previously have imagined.”
Souza knew he didn’t need to say anything else.
“I’ve been looking to make the proposal for a while.” He continues. “If you accept, then you will be given a fair chance to prove yourself. We will continue to host our meetings in the tunnels and, perhaps some day, you will be able to attend yourself. Of course, if you aren’t willing to accept these terms then we shall speak no more of it.”
Al thinks for a moment, all thoughts of Frank’s death pushed to the back of his mind. A moment later, he stuffs a few bills into my hand and sends me off for another round of drinks.
I’m not sure what they talked about while I was away, but things started to happen as quickly as that afternoon.
With the meeting over, me and the boss were driving through the streets of the city. The powerful silence in the car was broken by gunfire, hammering against us from the street. Luckily the extra protection Al had put on his personal car held fast, sparing everyone inside.
Al seemed worried by the attack, dropped outta public sight for a few days after. At first I thought Mr Souza had double crossed us, or maybe he had nothing to do with it whatsoever.
About two weeks later, on January 25th, Torrio was shot three times outside his apartment, a final bullet to the head mercifully jamming in the chamber. Al came to Torrio’s side straight away, low profile be damned, and immediately set a guard outside his hospital room as the man recovered.
It all seemed like a lotta bad luck, and a whole lotta ill will on behalf of the North Side Gang. But there was a part of me that thought different, and the more I thought about it, the more perfect it all seemed.
See, Torrio was popular. He was the undisputed boss of the Chicago Outfit, and in a world of backstabbing and betrayal, there was no way to move against the guy without turning the whole gang against you.
I started to wonder, what if the attack on Al’s car was staged, so that everyone would think his life was being threatened in the same way as Torrio’s? In the same way, the attempt on Torrio’s life, with gun jamming against his head, made everyone think the hoods had wanted Torrio dead.
The more I thought about it, the less I saw it as a string of bad luck for the outfit. I think, in the worst possible way, it was a gift from Souza to Al.
By the end of the year, Torrio had left for Italy and, as anyone would have predicted, he handed the entire operation over to Al.
It should've been the best day of the Boss’ life.
But something changed in Al, over the year, after seeing how casually Souza had dealt with Colosimo, Frank and how quickly he’d engineered the fall of Johnny Torrio.
I think Al hoped he’d be freed by his deal with Souza, that he’d finally have a chance to be the boss. But I think he realised that he was simply serving a new master. Less sympathetic, with motives he didn’t understand, and capable of tearing anyone down anybody in a matter of weeks.
Al had never been bigger, but he’d never felt smaller and, though he could now do everything he ever wanted, all he saw was the cage.
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2018.08.27 04:22 iminterestingplease Part 37.

It's slowing down a little. Sorry about the quick posts.
6290.(History change.)Do you remember the 1992 Hurricane Iniki in Hawaii being a Category 5 instead of 4?(Has there been lots of harsh weather, and has it appeared in places it normally doesn't hit?)
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/08/23/us/hawaii-hurricane-iniki-1992-wxc/index.html
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Grant can either stand for Simpson, or nothing.)(Abcyeah/ABCya!)(Area codes are now changing.)(Is anything about Men In Black 3 off?)(Has The Truman Show in any way?)(Secret chambers, and backup areas all through our bodies that benefit us now.)("Shave, and a haircut, six bits."/"Shave, and a haircut, two bits.")(Was Richie not an acceptable spelling of Ritchie?)(Ritchie Rich/Richie Rich)(Judy Garland had a stunt double in The Wizard Of Oz.)(There are sharks that can live for 400 years.)(m(StarStar)(There's a fake moon going around the earth.)(Harlan David Sanders/Harland David Sanders)(Was he not a real person?)(Did Henry Kissinger die a while back?)(Russians landed on the moon about 10 years before we did.)(Did Bob Newhart a while back?)(Are any celebrities' names pronounced different?)(Did Bill Anderson die a while back?)(There is a movie from 1987 about Nelson Mandela titled Mandela starring Danny Glover)(There was an attempted assassination of Franklin D. Roosevelt.)(Rosevelt?)(Transparent fish caught in New Zealand.)(Dorothy's shoes are now sometimes black, and her now changes a lot in The Wizard Of Oz.)(Old video of underwater cable laying.)(Babuska(Babushka?)dolls are now mostly known as Nesting dolls.)(The van in Back To The Future is remembered as many colors?)(Did She Looks So Perfect by 5 Seconds Of Summer change again?)(Do you remember "I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore Toto.", "I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore Toto.", or "I got a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore Toto."?)(Was it something else?)(Rekall VectoRECALL VECTOR)(Do you remember David Bowie dying in 2017, or 2018?)(Weird green spider with tons of babies on its back.)(Mysterious coin from the future.)(Weird bear dog found.)("The numerator goes into the denominator."/"The divider goes into the dividend.")(Metro Golden MeyeMetro-Goldwyn-Mayer)(Mistake in Pirates Of the Caribbean where you can see the Adidas tag in Jack Sparrow's hat.)(Anticrepuscular sky shows "second sun".)(Rusha/Russha/Russhia/Russia)(Was there never a glitch in The Cleveland Show theme song?)(Two-headed snakes are becoming mire common.)(Gasoline seems to be less flammable.)(T-Rex hands look off.)(Wasp with extremely large stinger discovered.)(Mystery boat washes up on Ireland.)(World's oldest botanical gardens.)(Frog fish now exists.)(The Mad Hatter's hat has changed color in the cartoon movie.)(99 million year-old beetle found preserved.)("If you got a problem yo I'll solve it."/"If there's a problem yo I'll solve it."/"If there was a problem yo I'll solve it.")(Do any of his logos look off?)(Patagonian Cavy now exists.)(Cassowary now exists.)(The ice cream in the Cold Stone Creamery logo is off.)(Missy Elliot/Missy Elliott)(Do any of her logos look off?)(Squirrels now sometimes walk on two legs.)(Have Marge, or Lisa Simpson's necklaces changed color?)(The ending song to Black Panther changed.)(Nimbus Monkeyshine Ale/Nimbus Old Monkeyshine Ale)(Anything else off?)("Why don't people understand my creation?"/"Why don't people understand my intentions?")(Anything else off?)(Jailed Abroad/Locked Up Abroad/Banged Up Abroad)(Wasn't Warren Buffett married to an Asian woman?)(Is the "Right tool" scene in No Country For Old Men off in any way?)(The Long Green Mile/The Green Mile)(Sea monkey ad no longer has trident.)(Was the girl smiling on the "We can do it!" poster, and is her muscle off?)(Anything else off?)(Cafe Rio logo has changed.)(Were the ruby slippers from The Wizard Of Oz retrieved years ago instead of recently?)(Wasn't John McCain actually known as Songbird John following his imprisonment?)(Was it something else?)(Anything else off?)(Have you heard of woolly donkeys?)(Didn't John McCain die years ago?)(CNC/C&C)(Wasn't the Apple logo a full apple before, or was the bite different?)(Joe CrockeJoe Cocker)(Aldi's/Aldis/Aldi)(McGriddle/McGriddles)(Were McDonald's Chicken McNuggets never specific shapes?)(Bill Murry/Bill Murray)(New weird Subway logo.)(Have you heard of the ancient stepwells in India?)(Lots of off colored eggs now.)(Portuguese Man O'War(Man Of War, or Man-Of-War?)now exists.)(Monstrous alligators, and crocodiles spotted.)(Jeff Goldbloom/Jeff Goldblum)(Other spellings?)(Anything else off?)(Does Ozzy Osbourne's name keep changing?)(Sea pig now exists.)(Burt Reynolds died again on September 6, 2018.)(Hall & Oats/Hall & Oates)(Walter Mathou/Walter Matthau)(Other spellings?)(Jack Lennon/Jack Lemmon)(Other spellings?)(Was it spelled Congradulations?)(The Jackson family had 11 kids?)(Anything else off?)(Africa by Toto lyrics keep changing.)(Lines in The Wizard Of Oz keep changing.)(Paul Simon's Graceland album release date changed.)(Human civilization goes back more.)(Giant octopus species discovered.)(The new Jackson family members have music careers.)(7 sisters star constellation has 9 stars.)(Stingrays keep changing.)(Shield mantises now exist.)(Trivia vs. Trivial.)(Halley's Comet spelling keeps changing.)(Blue scorpions now exist.)(Big cats are much friendlier.)(Gorillas, and other primates seem smarter, and friendlier.)(Halley, Hailee, and other weird spellings instead of Hailey, or Haley.)(Hailey Steinfeld/Hailee Steinfeld)(Anyone with the name Willie, or Hailee is off.)(Chicks now jump off cliffs onto rocks below sometimes.)(Red The Bum/Brett The Bum/Fred The Bum)(The DVD logo doesn't bounce around a specific screen when you pause a DVD.)(Praying mantises now attack hummingbirds.)("We're off to see the wizard!"/"You're off to see the wizard.")(Was it always the same?)(Royals have their own pyramid on Balmoral estate.)(Here We Go Loopty Loo/Here We Go Looby Loo)(Anything else off?)(Have any of the lyrics in Lucy In The Sky By Diamonds by The Beatles changed?)(New glowing rocks.)(Off colored slugs.)(Novograd/Novogorod)(Lots of song changes.)(Parker Brothers is now the original creator of Monopoly, and other stuff is off.)(Scenes in Miss Congeniality changed.)(Comedienne is now a word.)(Einstein-Rosenberg/Einstein-Rosen)(H.E. Shepard/E.H. Shepard)(Other spellings?)(Many changes to the band Rush.)(Wild strawberries, and other things.)(Sam Kinison died for a different reason now.)(Henry James Fonda/Henry Jaynes Fonda)(The Chevy logo changed again.)(Foxes now have black fur, and not white fur.)(Toyger now exists.)(More aircraft changes.)(Lots of more R, and A, and messed up T, and more squished letters, and upside down, and reverse letters.)(Geneology/Genealogy)(Barry Hearn is now alive.)(Steven King/Stephen King)(Is the Hot 'n Now(Hot And Now?)logo off?)(Other spellings?)(Is the Reno Tahoe logo off?)(Oarfish now exists.)(Tear Drop memorial now exists.)(Mark Sheldon/Mark Shelton)(Veiled marble statues now exist.)(Bryce Courtney/Bryce Courtenay)(Courtenay is now an acceptable spelling of Courtney.)(Dogs can purr.)(Souless/Soulless)(FilmakeFilmmaker)(House cats can growl.)(Jerry Stiller is now alive.)(Ric Flair is now alive.)(Stan Lee is now alive.)(Julie Andrews is now alive.)(Crow's beaks have changed color, and other things.)(Limp Biscuit/Limp Biskit)(Lots of song lyric changes.)(More 9/11 changes.)(Do any of their logos look off?)(There are now 15 Egyptian deities(Diety?)when there were less before, and Amun-Ra(Was it spelled different?)is now multiple gods together.)(Santa Catalina salad dressing/Catalina salad dressing(Other spellings?)(Wiley Coyote/Wile Coyote/Wiley E. Coyote/Wile E. Coyote)(Other spellings?)(Ing to In' everywhere.)(Keith Oberman/Keith Olbermann)(Transexual/Transsexual)(Other spellings?)(The Flintstone Kids is now a thing.)(Mozart wrote a piece called Lick Me In The Ass, and has wrote many gross things.)(Apollo Guidance Computer now exists.)(Discobulus statue changed, and lots haven't heard of it.)(The Silence Of The Lambs, Star Wars, Star Trek, Dirty Harry, Sunset Boulevard, and The Godfather lines keep changing.)(Do you remember Narwal, or Narwall?)("Greed is good."/"The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works.")(“I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like victory!”/"I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn’t find one of ’em, not one stinkin’ dink body. The smell, you know, that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smells like victory.")("Stay away from her, you bitch.”/“Get away from her, you bitch.”)(Ensure is now made of milk concentrate, and not milk, and the logo changed.)(Nordic flags don't have centered crosses.)(Lots of new muscles.)(Frogfish now exist.)(Aircraft powered by steam.)(Was it Mrs. Butterworth, or Ms. something?)(The original Porky Pig looks wrong.)(The Secret Life Of Walter Smitty/The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty)(Prince Phillip/Prince Philip)(Robert Duval/Robert Duvall)(13th Man Rule/10th Man Rule)(Was it another number?)(Didn't Krang never have an antenna?)("Tangled up in blue."/"Tangle up in blue.")(Ing to In' lyrics.)(Any of his lyrics look off?)(Theater Of Pain/Theatre Of Pain)(Brian ForresteBrian ForesteBrian ForsteBrien Foerster)(Brian ForresteBrian Forster)(Roahl Dahl/Ronald Dahl/Roald Dahl)("Warmest sunshine softer than a sponge."/"Warmest sunshine softer than a sigh.")($100 bills changed again.)(Do any of her logos look off?)(Panda dolphin now exists.)(John Lennon now has purse in the backstage photos of Abbey Road)(Cailou/Caillou)(Are any of the channel names it was broadcasted on off?)(White painted Easter Island eyes.)(Likeable/Likable)(Hairless rabbits now exist.)(Jimmy Fallen/Jimmy Fallon)(The Ying Yang Gang/Ying Yang Twins)(More Billy Joel lyric changes.)(More changes to the clothing of Pebbles Flintstone, and her belly button is now exposed.)(Australian flag, and flag history keep changing.)(Did cabbits not exist.)(There are over 21 moon landings.)(Splenda, or other alternative sugars never used in certain sodas.)(The history of IIII vs. IV now says IIII has been around longer, and IV wasn't used in Roman times.)(Square, rectangular, or diamond waves now exist.)(Dark City has changed.)("When you come to shoot, shoot don't talk."/"When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.")(Saturn's rings are dull instead of colorful.)(China has lots of fake cities, and copycats like Paris, France.)(There is a porcelain doll face in the ocean from the Titanic.)(Did Gene Simmons die on January 22, 2010 for you, or another time?)(Rory from Gilmore Girls does a report on Hillary Clinton, and not Anne Frank.)(The Offsprings/The Offspring)(Dennis Norton/Denis Norden, and did he die in the early 2000's, or another time instead of September 19, 2018?)(Heintz/Heinz)(Has the pronunciation of Caillou changed?)(Has the Galaxy High School theme song changed?)(Penske, and DHL trucks now look orange, but are yellow.)(There is a debate going on about Gatorade, and Powerade, and how one flavor is yellow, or green.)(The light green vests people wear are a color debate.)(Weird looking clocks.)(NOAA now exists.)(Vogelkop now exists.)(The streets now have puddles in the Back To The Future, and The Karate Kid movies.)("Meat is meat.", and a missing Hannibal scene.)(Color phenomenon.)(Capcom logos changed.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Brant
6292.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember Rick Moranis dying?(Did Harold Ramis way before February 24, 2014?)(Anything else about Harold Ramis off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Moranis
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Ramis
6293.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember crows never being able to snowboard?
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/snowboarding-crows-the-plot-thickens/
6294.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember DMT not being a thing?(Did it not go by other names?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine
6295.(Band name change.)The Tramps/The Trammps(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trammps
6296.(Famous Actor name change.)Walter Goggins/Walton Goggins
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walton_Goggins
6297.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember Ben Bova dying?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bova
6298.(Famous Politician name change.)Julia Bishop/Julie Bishop
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Bishop
6299.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the stars on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame being a different color?(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Walk_of_Fame
6300.(Movie Scene change.)Do you remember Kevin McCallister smacking his face more than once in the aftershave scene?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_qu4ZBCU6Fc
6301.(Music Lyrics change.)"It's been awhile."/"And it's been a while."("Since I could."/"Since I couln.")("I've seen the way the candle lights your face."/"I've seen the way the candles light your face.")(Stained/Staind)(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Staind-its-been-awhile-lyrics
6302.(Music Lyrics change.)"There's a thousand people."/"A thousand people."(Stop Hey What's(What Is?)That Sound?/Stop Children What's That Sound?/For What It's(It Is?)(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Buffalo-springfield-for-what-its-worth-lyrics
6303.(Spelling change.)Pulmonary Aveolus/Pulmonary Alveolus(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulmonary_alveolus
6304.(Theme Song Lyrics change.)"Flying through the sky."/"Zooming through the sky."
https://genius.com/Billy-straus-little-einsteins-theme-song-lyrics
6305.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the Spanish Sahara not being a thing?(Were the mouth, and nose closer together?)(Is the neck longer?)(Was there never snow, or palm trees in England?)(Brittany Spears/Britney Spears)(Lots of US states look off.)(McDonald's M has changed again.)(Carol King/Carole King)(All Sesame Street characters have different eyes.)(Butterflies will now eat chicken feed.)(Jammin' by Bob Marley changed again.)(The famous sailor kiss photo changed again.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Sahara
6306.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Suriname not existing?(Did it not go by other names?)(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suriname
6307.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Nikola Tesla, and Trump not being connected?
https://www.history.com/news/nikola-tesla-files-declassified-fbi
6308.(Movie name change.)Hedwig And The Angry Itch/Hedwig And The Angry Inch(Book too.)(Do any of the logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedwig_and_the_Angry_Inch_(film)
6309.(Famous Landmark name change.)House Of Hapsburg/House Of Habsburg(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Habsburg
6310.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Eddie Murphy never having a music career?(Were all the famous songs he did done by other people?)(Anything else off?)(Did he not do a song with Michael Jackson called Whatzupwitu?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Murphy_discography
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whatzupwitu
6311.(Spelling change.)Whitch/Which(Sandwitch/Sandwhitch/Sandwhich/Sandwich)
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/which
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandwich
6312.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these bands not existing?
https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-10-greatest-obscure-metal-bands-from-the-1970s-who-should-have-been-huge
6313.(Famous Wrestler name change.)Nicolai Volkoff/Nikolai Volkoff(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Volkoff
6314.(Famous Wrestler name change.)Paul Ordorff/Paul Orndorff(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Orndorff
6315.(Company name change.)Arthur Anderson/Arthur Andersen(Price Water House Cooper's/PricewaterhouseCoopers)(Ernest & Young/Ernst & Young)(Kidder Matthews/Kidder Mathews)(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen
6316.(Famous Actor name change.)Keenan Thompson/Kenan Thompson
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenan_Thompson
6317.(Song Title change.)"If I ruled the world."/"If I rule the world."(Anything else off?)(Lauren Hill/Lauryn Hill)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_I_Ruled_the_World_(Imagine_That)
6318.(Famous Singer name change.)Morrisey/Morrissey(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey
6319.(Music Lyrics change.)"Don't take it."/"Don't tear it."(Was it always the same?)
https://genius.com/Nine-inch-nails-terrible-lie-lyrics
6320.(Music Lyrics change.)"Ain't talking 'bout love."/"Can't talking 'bout love."(Was it always the same?)(Ing to In' lyrics, and song title.)(Anything else about the lyrics, and song title off?)(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Van-halen-aint-talkin-bout-love-lyrics
6321.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember Rowan Atkinson dying?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowan_Atkinson
6322.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember "Made in China" being on something meaning everything about that product was made in China?
https://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/business/worldbusiness/made-in-china-labels-dont-tell-whole-story.html
6323.(Celebrity death date change.)Do you remember Chet Baker dying in 1961, or 1993 instead of May 13, 1988?(Anything else off?)(Are there now missing chapters in the film The Wizard Of Oz, and lots of other stuff?)(Did Rex Reed die of AIDS(Aids?)in the 1990's?)(Anything in the A Day In The Life song off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chet_Baker
6324.(Spelling change.)Brat Worst/Bratwurst
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratwurst
6325.(Phantom movie.)Do you remember Dumb And Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd not existing?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumb_and_Dumberer:_When_Harry_Met_Lloyd
6326.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these Donald Trump cameos not happening?(The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air, The Job, Suddenly Susan, Sex And The City, The Drew Carey Show, Two Weeks Notice, Spin City, The Nanny, The Associate, The Little Rascals, Zoolander, Eddie, Home Alone 2: Lost In New York, Quantum Leap, and did he not do WWE appearances?)(Did he not win the election at first?)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yosAVMB47-Y
6327.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different, or not a thing?(Sand cats, blue dye spinal cord cure, transformer owl, more changes to Mount Rushmore, the great molasses flood, sneezing marine iguanas, phantom clowns of 1981, coaxial rotors, ice discs, genetically modified 3 parent babies of the late 90's, rhesus macaques in Florida, more flag changes, twins conceived, and born at different times, sea sheep, poitou donkeys, tear drop grapes, more changes to the Statue Of Liberty, Pallas cat, Angora rabbit, Dianne Feinstein, macroevolution, Chimeron, more geography changes, more The Creation Of Adam changes, more sculpture, and painting changes, Japanese Geta, and foot binding, more changes to Shiva, Vancouver, California, Usa, Õita, China, Texas, made in USA means USA, China, made in the USA is the actual USA, Mexican grizzly bear, London beer flood, history of Hawaii.)(Video below.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xxr9L7mjGGs
6328.(Music Lyrics change.)"You make a grown man cry."/"You make a dead man come."(Was it always the same?)(Start It Up/Start Me Up)
https://genius.com/The-rolling-stones-start-me-up-lyrics
6329.(Music Lyrics change.)"To buy you things."/"To buy you thing."(Hard Day's Night/A Hard Day's Night)(Anything else off?)("Squandered my existence."/"Squandered my resistance.")(Lots of Bridge Over Troubled Waters stuff has become Bridge Over Troubled Water.)("I can't change time."/"I can't trace time.")(Do any of his logos look off?)("Stand up for your right."/"Stand up for your rights.")("Heaven is on the earth."/"Heaven is under the earth.")(Have any lyrics in Back In The U.S.S.R. by The Beatles changed?)(Anything else off?)
https://genius.com/The-beatles-a-hard-days-night-lyrics
https://genius.com/Simon-and-garfunkel-the-boxer-lyrics
https://genius.com/David-bowie-changes-lyrics
https://genius.com/Bob-marley-and-the-wailers-get-up-stand-up-lyrics
https://genius.com/The-beatles-back-in-the-ussr-lyrics
6330.(Treaty name change.)Kyoto Accord/Kyoto Protocol
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol
6331.(Fictional Character name change.)Gus Frey/Gus Fring
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Fring
6332.(Special name change.)Treehouse Of TerroTreehouse Of Horror
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treehouse_of_Horror
6333.(Company name change.)Amber Crombie & Fitch/Ambercrombie & Fitch/Abercrombie & Fitch(Does the logo look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abercrombie_%26_Fitch
6334.(Music Lyrics change.)"Make believe that you'll always have me."/"Make believe that you're always happy."(Ing to In' lyrics.)
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/godsmack/awake.html
6335.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these cities, and similar places not existing?(Santa Claus, Indiana.)(Intercourse, Pennsylvania.)(Idiotville, Oregon.)(Toad Suck, Arkansas.)(Eighty Eight, Kentucky.)(Eighty Four, Pennsylvania.)(Ding Dong, Texas.)(Cut And Shoot, Texas.)(Saint-Louis-Du-Ha!-Ha!, Québec(Quebec?), Canada.)(Hot Coffee, Mississippi.)(Knockemstiff, Ohio.)(Two Egg, Florida.)(Rabbit Hash, Kentucky.)(Cookietown, Oklahoma.)(Glen Campbell, Pennsylvania.)(Accident, Maryland.)(Big Arm, Montana.)(Chicken, Alaska.)(Coupon, Pennsylvania.)(Dogtown, Alabama.)(Embarrass, Minnesota.)(Eureka, California.)(Eureka, Kansas.)(Experiment, Georgia.)(Fertile, Iowa.)(Frankenstein, Missouri.)(Gaylordsville, Connecticut.)(Hazard, Nebraska.)(Hell, Michigan.)(Hippo, Kentucky.)(Imalone, Wisconsin.)(Kickapoo, Kansas.)(Los Baños, California.)(Marrowbone, Tennessee.)(Mexican Water, Arizona.)(Mock City, Washington.)(Money, Mississippi.)(Mosquitoville, Vermont.)(Ninety Six, South Carolina.)(Nothing, Arizona.)(Oatmeal, Texas.)(Office Hall, Virginia.)(Okay, Oklahoma.)(Paw Paw, West Virginia.)(Pee Pee, Ohio.)(Pie Town, New Mexico.)(Pigeon, Michigan.)(Protection, Kansas.)(Red Shirt, South Dakota.)(Rough And Ready, California.)(Searchlight, Nevada.)(Spread Eagle, Wisconsin.)(Tightwad, Missouri.)(Toast, North Carolina.)(Truth Or Consequences, New Mexico.)(Twig, Minnesota.)(Unalaska, Alaska.)(Uncertain, Texas.)(Virgin, Utah.)(War, West Virginia.)(Waterproof, Louisiana.)(What Cheer, Iowa.)(Whynot, North Carolina.)(Y City, Arkansas.)(Zap, North Dakota.)(Monkeys Eyebrow, Kentucky.)(Bumpass, Virginia.)(Anus, France.)(Windpassing, Austria.)(Humptulips, Washington.)(Yolo County, California.)(Boring, Oregon.)(Hooker, Oklahoma.)(Weed, California.)(Batman, Turkey.)(Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Wales.)(Why, Arizona.)(Dildo, Newfoundland And Labrador,(Newfoundland?)Canada.)(Lickskillet, Texas.)(Cheesequake, New Jersey.)(Nowhere Else, Australia.)(Titty Hill, England.)(Santa Claus, Georgia.)(Puke, Albania.)(Fartsville, Indiana.)(Poopsdale, Indiana.)(Cool, California.)(Beer, Devon, England.)(Disco, Tennessee.)(Fear Not, Pennsylvania.)(Rest And Be Thankful, Argyll And Butte, Scotland.)(Surprise, Arizona.)(Climax, Pennsylvania.)(Arsenic Tubs, New Mexico.)(Dismal, Tennessee.)(Double Trouble, New Jersey.)(Moron, Mongolia.)(Satan’s Kingdom, Vermont.)(Who’s Thought It, Texas.)(Cabbage Patch, California.)(Silly, Belgium.)(Sweet Lips, Tennessee.)Polkadott, Ohio.)(Punkeydoodles Corners, Ontario, Canada.)(Bread Loaf, Vermont.)(Clam, Virginia.)(Egg, Austria.)(Eek, Alaska.)(Hurt, Virginia.)(Monster, Netherlands.)(River Styx, Ohio.)(Bumble Bee, Arizona.)(Porcupine, South Dakota.)(Doghouse Junction, California.)(Bangs, Texas.)(Soda Springs, Idaho.)(Bluff, Alaska.)(Placentia, California.)(Fries, Virginia.)(Dinosaur, Colorado.)(American Fork, Utah.)(Concrete, Washington.)(Briny Breezes, Florida.)(Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina.)(Canadian, Texas.)(Superior, Wyoming.)(Atomic City, Idaho.)(Coward, South Carolina.)(Three Way, Tennessee.)(Winnebago, Minnesota.)(Last Chance, Iowa.)(Speed, North Carolina.)(Oblong, Illinois.)(Colon, Michigan.)(Pink, Michigan.)(Blue Grass, Iowa.)(Popejoy, Iowa.)
http://mentalfloss.com/article/27987/15-places-strange-names-and-how-they-got-them
https://thoughtcatalog.com/michael-koh/2014/01/52-weird-names-of-places-in-the-united-states-that-you-just-cant-believe-are-real/
https://www.rd.com/funny-stuff/36-funny-places-to-live-around-the-world/
https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/the-35-weirdest-city-and-town-names-in-the-usa/
6336.(Music Lyrics change.)"The Red Queen's lost her head."/"The Red Queen's off with her head."(Anything else off?)
https://genius.com/amp/Jefferson-airplane-white-rabbit-lyrics
6337.(Phantom movie.)Do you remember The Bourne Identity from 1988 not being a thing?(The Born series/The Borne series/The Bourne series)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bourne_Identity_(1988_film)
6338.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember this viral photo being a beach, or a door?(Anything else off?)
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/fl-reg-is-it-beach-or-door-twitter-photo-20180831-story.html
6339.(Music Lyrics change.)"She's been all around the block."/"She been all around the block."("There's been as many hands on her as the knob on a door."/"There's been many hands on her as the knob on the door.")("She will ride through the flames of Hell."/"She will walk through the flames of Hell.")(Anything else off?)
http://www.metrolyrics.com/she-loves-my-cock-lyrics-jackyl.html
6340.(Music Lyrics change.)"Like a blister in the Sun."/"Like I blister in the Sun."(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Violent-femmes-blister-in-the-sun-lyrics
6341.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the cover art for Little Nicky being different in any way?(Does the logo look off?)
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/little_nicky/
6342.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember it being more certain that King Arthur, and everything surrounding him actually existed?
https://www.history.com/news/was-king-arthur-a-real-person
6343.(History change.)Do you remember there being way more bras burned during the women's protests than there actually were?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_America_protest
6344.(Date change.)Do you remember the first air-to-air missles being made around 1930, and not as far back as 1916?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Prieur_rocket
6345.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the company in Total Recall being called Recall Incorporated instead of Rekall Incorporated?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Recall_(1990_film)
6346.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Jason Bateman, or someone else starring as the older version of Zac Efron in 17 Again instead of Matthew Perry?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/17_Again_(film)
6347.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Selena Gomez always snapping her fingers, or using her wand to make the logo appear in the Wizards Of Waverly Place theme song instead of looking in her bag?(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizards_of_Waverly_Place
6348.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Double, Double, Toil And Trouble being about a Halloween sleepover instead of what it is now?(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double,_Double,_Toil_and_Trouble
6349.(Album Logo change.)Do you remember the kid holding a bat on the Regional At Best album cover by Twenty ØNE PILØTS?(Anything else off?)(21 Pilots?)(Do any of their logos look off?)
http://twenty-one-pilots.wikia.com/wiki/Regional_at_Best
6350.(Song Title change.)What About Angels/Not About Angels(Any of the lyrics off?)(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Birdy-not-about-angels-lyrics
6351.(Date change.)Do you remember Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius(Jimmy Neutron?)being released after The Adventures Of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius(The Adventures Of Jimmy Neutron?)instead of before?(Any of the logos look off?)(Anything else off?)(Debby Derryberry/Debi Derryberry)(Was Debi never an acceptable spelling of Debby?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Neutron:_Boy_Genius
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Jimmy_Neutron:_Boy_Genius
6352.(Music Lyrics change.)"You think you the mob?"/"You think you mob?"("Motherfucking belts."/"Motherfucker's belt.")("We bad boy killas."/"We bad boy killa.")(Anything else off?)(Do any of any of their logos look off?)(Ing to In' lyrics.)
https://genius.com/2pac-hit-em-up-lyrics
6353.(Music Lyrics change.)"She's still my lady."/"She's still my baby."(Any of the other lyrics off?)(Do any of his logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Charlie-rich-behind-closed-doors-lyrics
6354.(Famous Actor name change.)Stephen Anell/Stephen Amell
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Amell
6355.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different, or not a thing?(US flag changed again, Sphinx changed again, Vitruvian Man changed again, Mount Rushmore changed again, The Creation Of Adam changed again, The Last Supper changed again, Mary Magdalene history changed, The Thinker changed again, 10% of people have a spinal abnormality, or having a 6th vertebrae, giant otters changed again, the moon tilted, changes in the rules of wisdom teeth, human feet changed again, lots of new sea creatures, scientists turn sunlight to fuel, plant that copies other plants, pink wasn't always for girls, and blue wasn't always for boys, and FDR, and other boys around his time dressed like girls at a young age, gypsy horse, silver horse, qinling panda, 100-year-old self-playing violin, 1939 radio wave driven fax machines first patented in 1843, du temple monoplane with steam engine 29 years before the Wright Brothers, the boy with no brain that regrew brain after birth.)(Video below.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRvieS8LHA
6356.(Music Lyrics change.)"The hills are filled."/"Hills are filled."("Driving down the freeway."/"Driving down your freeway.")(Ing to In' lyrics.)
https://genius.com/The-doors-la-woman-lyrics
6357.(Movie name change.)Face Off/Face/Off(Other logos, and similar things used around the movie changed too.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face/Off
Add-On: Do you remember Santa Claus having buttons on his suit?(Chris Cringle/Kris Kringle)(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus
6358.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the phone booth in the Bill & Ted movies saying Telephone instead of Phone?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Ted%27s_Excellent_Adventure
6359.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Atlantis being described as a continent instead of a city on an island?(Was there more assurance it existed?)(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis
Add-On: Do you remember these things not being pink, or green?(Video below.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-ydjJQONpCU
6360.(History change.)Do you remember Benjamin Franklin only using a key in the kite experiment, and not a bottle?(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_experiment
6361.(Spelling change.)Qualude/Quāālude(Other spellings?)(Is the pronunciation off?)(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone
6362.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different, or not a thing?(Risso's dolphin, pygmy killer whale, some sharks are warm-blooded partially, Sumatran rhinos, Tamaraw, Poitou donkey, Cary Grant never says "Judy. Judy. Judy.", Sgt. Joe Friday "Nothing but the facts ma'am.", or "Just the facts ma'am." is never said, and other stuff surrounding it is off, and the Dragnet logo changed, "Made up of whole cloth." is now a saying, Al Gore never says "I invented the internet.", alligators, and crocodiles used to be completely violent, lots of animals are more aggressive, and pee, and poop on themselves, and each other, and other places, elephants leak out gross stuff everywhere, Sarah Palin never says anything like "I can see Russia from my house." during the 2008 campaign, and other stuff surrounding it is off, Charles Boyer never says anything like "Come with me to the casbah." in any movie,(Does the movie cover logo look off at all?)"Badges, we don't need no stinking badges." is not the actual quote from The Treasure Of The Sierra Madre, rattlesnakes now climb trees, and disappearing from certain places, carbon dating is completely off, red heifers have already been bred, cicadas making weird sounds, and disappearing from certain places, colorful new birds, and weird new bird sounds, crows look different, plans to build third Israel(Isreal?)(Is the pronunciation off?)temple, lots of geography changes, lots more Adam's apple changes, and other body changes, hoodwinker sunfish, and there is more than one kind of sunfish, and they look off, Always On My Mind by Willie Nelson changed again, Bar Mitzvah used to be spelled, and pronounced different, more of Einstein's life has changed, more changes to tardigrade, Lazarus sign, lots more info on Nikola Tesla, and his existence is a change for some, more weird scarab beetles, more changes to Statue Of Liberty, ancient virus responsible for human conscious, water molecules found in Jupiter's Great Red Spot(Big Red Spot?), lung fish, weird nose tricks, more changes to Mount Rushmore, more changes to Shiva.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2eyqmbCwv0E
6363.(Movie Quote change.)"That's a fact Jack."/That's the fact Jack."(Razzle Dazzle/Razzle-Dazzle)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FOzub_ghAbM
6364.(T.V. Show name change.)Galaxy High/Galaxy High School(Is the Team Galaxy logo off?)(Kid Video/Kidd Video, and is the logo off?)(The Biscuits/The Biskitts)(The Quicky Koala Show/The Kwiky Koala Show)(Anything else off?)(Is the 6teen(16, or Sixteen logo off?)
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0229405/
6365.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the iconic door chase scene being popularized, and created by Scooby-Doo?
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScoobyDoobyDoors
6366.(Music Lyrics change.)"Hey, good looking."/"Hey hey, good looking."/"Say hey, good looking."(Ing to In' lyrics.)(Anything else off?)
http://www.metrolyrics.com/hey-good-lookin-lyrics-hank-williams.html
6367.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Isaac Hayes quitting South Park because he passed away instead of Scientology?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Hayes
6368.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember fire hydrants being only red, yellow, and sometimes silver?(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_hydrant
6369.(Movie Quote change.)"I'll be your huckleberry."/"I'm your huckleberry."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE
6370.(Restaurant name change.)Romano's Macaroni And Grill/Romano's Macaroni Grill(Was it something else?)(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romano's_Macaroni_Grill
6371.(Music Lyrics change.)"They wrote you."/"I wrote you."
https://genius.com/System-of-a-down-lost-in-hollywood-lyrics
6372.(Fictional Character appearance change.)Do you remember Freddy Krueger always having a red, and green sweater instead of red, and black, or dark gray?(Anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddy_Krueger
6373.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember this game only as Bean Bag Toss, and nothing else, and were they only known as bean bags?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornhole
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2017.11.04 10:17 EthanT90 Ignorance is Bliss (Part 2)

Part 1
Sorry it’s taken me so long to post the next part, and I’m sorry it’s shorter. It’s not always easy to find time to do things for myself anymore. Keeping this façade up is draining on its own and trying to find a way to fight back is even more daunting. The hours I have to work are minimal. Even telling you guys this story could be considered a waste of my most valuable resource: time. I need to do this though, for the sake of my sanity. I need a way to reach out to people again. I thought it would be like when I was a teenager, just coping by throwing myself into my studies, but things are different now. I miss Jonny and Franky, hell I even miss Alexis (cold-hearted bitch), but most of all I miss Jill. I want to reach out to her so badly, I want her to know that I didn’t choose to walk away. Things were different, I was ready to make the sacrifices needed. I still have the ring that she never got to see.
That’s not why you’re here though. You’re here because you decided you needed to know the truth of what’s out there. You’re here to learn of what I’ve been going through and how I’ve managed to stay alive. You’re here because maybe, and I pray I’m wrong, maybe it’s spread to your town and you need to know how to blend in. I promise, it’s possible, but it’s far from easy. If anyone out there is experiencing what I’m experiencing, don’t hesitate to reach out. I’m willing to help you, but only if you’re willing to help me. It’s probably safer if you just run though, go into hiding somewhere far away and hope it will all blow over for the best.
Jill, if you’re reading this…I’m sorry. I am so sorry I couldn’t tell you what was going on sooner. I know you know where to find me, but please…please…don’t come to me. I need you to stay as far away as possible. I need to believe that there’s still hope for you to be safe; to not be involved in any of this beyond what you saw happening with Franky that day. It’s not safe here and I don’t know if it ever will be again.
I spent the next couple days packing for my trip back home. Jill didn’t leave my side during this part of the ordeal, she made sure I knew she was there for me. I didn’t pack too much in terms of clothes, just enough for about two weeks (I would make due by mixing and matching after that.). The bulk of my luggage was for my research. I was going to be helping my mom, but I needed to keep working, it was one of the main reasons I was able to get approval for an extended leave of absence while maintaining my internship.
I woke up bright and early in the morning on the day of trip. It was going to be a pretty long drive, nearly 10 hours if I didn’t make any stops. I had just finished getting the last of my luggage into the back of my Jeep Wrangler when I heard a throat being cleared from behind, begging for my attention. I leaned back out of the vehicle and turned around, locking eyes with Jill.
“I hope you don’t think I’m letting you get away from me again so easily.” A sly smile graced that elegant face of hers. I could hear the exhaustion in her voice; she was trying so hard to mask it. It caught me off guard but I couldn’t help but smile. The way her golden brown hair locks fell to the sides of her face from amidst a messy top-bun, it was the single greatest sight to see so early in the morning. I noticed she had a duffel bag slung from the shoulder where her purse usually was and a mid-size trolley set in front of her.
“Look, it’s not like that and you know—“ I had barely begun to speak before she cut me off, “Shotgun!” I let out a sigh of defeat and placed her luggage in the back. The trip may have been guaranteed to be longer, but the extra time on the road was worth it. Jill’s presence was soothing. I was expecting to drive to be filled with mounting dread, the weight of which would grow heavier and more burdensome with each passing mile. It didn’t matter that I was taking an unexpected detour in life, it didn’t matter that these next few weeks (maybe months) would be difficult as I helped my mom to adapt to living with whatever medication they would place her on, it didn’t matter that I was once again going to be surrounded by memories of my dead sister. Nothing of that nature mattered because, for the first time in life, I wouldn’t feel so alone while I dealt with it.
After a couple hours of driving, Jill told me I needed to pull over. I suspected she needed to use a restroom or maybe just wanted to stretch her legs, so I pulled in to the next rest stop we came across. It was quite the surprise when she told me to switch her places so she could drive. I tried to argue, but she insisted, and I could never say no when she got persuasive. My interest was really peaked when she said I would need to put a blindfold on for a while, she had a surprise planned for me. I laughed a bit as I put it on. I’m not sure how long I lasted with the blindfold before I landed in my nap, nor was I sure how long I had been out for when the Jeep stopped rather abruptly, stirring me from my slumber.
“We’re here!” Jill cried out with glee, pulling the blindfold from my eyes. My eyelids cringed away from the high sun, it must have been around noon. I wasn’t able to look around, my eyes didn’t have time to adjust before my passenger side door was pulled open and a dark figure loomed over me. For a moment, I was terrified, still in the tail-end of my groggy state. The next moment I had a pair of arms wrapped around me, still buckled up, in a hug I instantly recognized.
“Dad? What? How?” the words were stumbling from my mouth as my terror was replaced with complete confusion.
“Surprise,” Jill exclaimed, “I looked your dad up on Facebook after you fainted the other day, hoping he might have some insight. He didn’t, but he was very interested in getting to know the girlfriend you never introduced to him.” She nudged me in the ribs, teasing with a false sense of insinuation in her tone. I rolled my eyes a bit at this, but she was right. There wasn’t any reason for it though, I just hadn’t seen my dad since before we started dating the first time.
“That’s half of it,” my dad chimed in, “the other half is that after you got the call about your mother, Jill decided to let me know what was going on. We talked a bit more and decided that she would be going with you and that you two would stop in here for the day. I’ve missed you, champ.” My dad’s voice wasn’t as heavy as I remembered. We talked a lot still but it was mostly online, due to our differing schedules.
“Well thank you so much for planning all of this without me and effectively kidnapping me with my own vehicle.” I teased, planting a kiss on Jill’s lips before she could respond. I didn’t want to give her wit the chance to strike me down, not in front of my old man at least. It worked, for the moment; I knew I wouldn’t be able to disarm her so easily every time my father was around.
July 13, 2015
It was the day after my mother was released from the Psychiatric Ward. Things were worse than I expected. The past two weeks had been great, showing Jill around my hometown, and then my dad coming up a couple of days after we arrived. It was really nice to be spending time at home like this again, I didn’t think my father would ever step foot in that house again. Dad even pulled me aside at one point, telling me how I had ‘struck gold’ with Jill, even giving me a serious conversation about how I should consider tying the knot. I had no idea how much that conversation would influence me. He suggested maybe having my mom move out of state, like he had, maybe bring her to Illinois with me so I would be close by again. He didn’t want to talk much about his incidents with seeing the dead, but he said it hadn’t happened again after he moved. Now she was a wonderful and sad memory, not one that haunted him in his waking life though. That idea was completely scrapped the day mom came home though.
She was…unresponsive. Doctor’s said the medicine was pretty strong and sometimes it would take time for her to system to regulate it, allowing her to be communicative again. Jill was pretty upset by this, she had been looking forward to meeting my mother, especially after she and the old man had hit it off so well. I think she had a mental sigh of relief when she was called back home, although whoever called wouldn’t say why, they insisted that it was important. (It later turned out that her parents had been in a pretty bad car accident on their date night. They both survived, though her father ended up in a wheelchair.). My dad offered to drive her home, I don’t think he was able to handle seeing my mother in that state either. To say he was heartbroken, judging by the look on his face, would be putting it mildly.
Things had ended up just as I feared they were going to be before Jill’s intervention. I was alone, taking care of my mom, nobody to distract me. Maybe this was a good thing though, after all, I hadn’t kept up with my end of the agreement for my leave my absence. I hadn’t worked on my research at all, not even a single iota of thought. I was going to change that today. If mom’s catatonic state the day prior was any indication for how the foreseeable future would play out, then I wouldn’t have any trouble doing my work, especially since I wasn’t the only one taking care of her…
The doorbell rang, as I expected it would, sometime around nine in the morning. I had already cooked breakfast, hoping she would at least be able to eat a decent breakfast before her medication. When I got to the door though, I was shocked by who I saw: Franky. I nearly choked on my bite of sausage. What the hell was Franky doing here? Did he come to see me? How did he even know I was here? How did he know where I lived? That’s when I noticed he was wearing the uniform of a Visiting Nurse. Franky wasn’t a nurse. What the hell is going on?
“I’m here to see Patient 2-9-3.” Franky droned, his voice completely monotone. He was looking right at me, but his face had no expression, it was like he was looking right through me. I was in a conscious stupor and Frank pushed right past me, heading to my mother’s bedroom. Had he been given a tour of the house without my knowledge, how did he know where he was going? I shook myself out of it and decided to follow him, seeing if maybe this was some type of elaborate prank by Jill. I was several steps behind him and when I entered my mother’s room, he was already kneeling down next to her bed. There was a voice-recorder on the nightstand next to it, a light indicated that it had been switched on, and he was filling a syringe from a brown bottle. Frank looked at his watch, placing the needle against my mother’s arm.
“9:07 A.M., patient is asleep. Administration of medication to Patient 2-9-3 commencing.” Frank’s monotone voice came, clearly speaking for the sake of the voice recorder. He pressed the needle into her vein and applied pressure to plunger, sending whatever the medication was directly into her veins. My mom’s eyes opened within seconds of the needle being removed, she was wearing the same blank expression as the day before. The same blank expression as Frank. Something wasn’t right here, what was that medicine?
“9:07 A.M. Administration complete, patient is awake. Will entrust care to the male offspring of subject.” Frank’s words rang out in the ears, they were sending up red-flag after red-flag, but this was Franky, one of my best friends. This definitely had to be some sort of joke that my mom was in on. I decided to play along, I wanted to see how far they would take it.
“Hey Franky, what exactly is that medicine?” Franky didn’t respond.
“Hello? Franky, are you listening to me?” I continued, trying to get him to acknowledge me as he placed the voice-recorder into his pocket and packed the rest of his supplies away. I reached out and placed my hand on his shoulder, his head rapidly turning in my direction, staring at me with intent as I spoke, “Uh, Franky, you alright man?”
“I’m sorry, you must have me confused with someone else. I am Dr. Francis.” That monotone droning again, this was starting to piss me off.
“Yeah, no fucking shit. You hate being called Francis though.” I argued, hoping to call him out on the bullshit. He simply stared at me, blankly.
“No, I am Dr. Francis and I must be leaving now. Goodbye.” One final statement and walked out of the room and out of the house. Man, they were dedicated to this ruse. I simply let out a sigh and helped my mom to the kitchen table. She might not have been able to enjoy the breakfast before being put in this state again, but I could at least feed her. I may have suspected that it was a prank, but I still had to feed her. Just in case. At least, that’s what I told myself.
Hours passed, and I had her sitting in front of the television. I don’t remember what I had her watching. Hell, it could have been static and it wouldn’t have made a damn bit of difference. I was just getting finished setting up for my experiment. It was a multi-phase experiment, but I wouldn’t get passed Phase 1. I turned the device on and it began to emit high frequency EM-waves. I wouldn’t be able to gather any data that night; the moment I flipped the switch, my mom began to scream from her place in the living room. I jumped to my feet, rushing to get there. I nearly took myself out, tripping on the power cable and ripping it out of the wall on my way. The screaming stopped before I got there, but she had contorted into something similar to a fetal position. I shook her shoulders, trying to get her to respond, to see if she was okay. It was no to avail though, she seemed to have returned to that same catatonic state.
This wasn’t a joke, there was no prank going on. I grabbed the house phone (I had programmed the Psych Ward into the speed dial) since my phone was in a different room. I wasn’t sure what was going on, but I figured it must have been some type of adverse effect to her medication. I explained that I didn’t know what happened but that she seemed to have some type of painful reaction based off the position I found her in and the screaming I heard, they agreed to send someone out immediately. I was on my knees, holding my mom’s hands in mine as I waited for them to arrive. It was about 20 minutes before I heard the doorbell. I wiped the tears from my eyes and went to greet them, expecting it to be Franky again. I was somewhat pleasantly surprised when I opened the door to a woman this time.
“Thank you so much for coming out though. What happened to the guy from this morning though? You know, Franky- I mean, Dr. Francis.” I inquired. He may have been behaving strangely, especially by somehow having a medical job (Come on, he’s the fucking bug guy!) but Franky was still one of my best friends and it was nice to see him. She blinked at me, unresponsive at first. That’s when I noticed her face. That same blank expression, but it got worse… Her mouth opened up and out droned that fucking monotone voice, “You are mistaken. I was here this morning. I am Dr. Francis.”
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2017.05.05 18:07 ilovetoeatpie The Life of Pablo

Kanye Omari West (/ˈkɑːnjeɪ/;[1] born June 8, 1977) is an American rapper, songwriter, record producer, fashion designer, and entrepreneur. Born in Atlanta and raised in Chicago, West briefly attended art school before becoming known as a producer for Roc-A-Fella Records in the early 2000s, producing hit singles for artists such as Jay Z and Alicia Keys. Intent on pursuing a solo career as a rapper, West released his debut album The College Dropout in 2004 to widespread critical and commercial success, and founded the record label GOOD Music. He went on to pursue a variety of different styles on subsequent albums Late Registration (2005), Graduation (2007), and 808s & Heartbreak (2008). In 2010, he released his fifth album My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy to rave reviews from critics, and the following year he collaborated with Jay Z on the joint LP Watch the Throne (2011). West released his abrasive sixth album, Yeezus, to further critical praise in 2013. His seventh album, The Life of Pablo, was released in 2016.
West is among the most acclaimed musicians of the 21st century, and is one of the best-selling artists of all time, having sold more than 32 million albums and 100 million digital downloads worldwide.[5][6] He has won a total of 21 Grammy Awards, making him one of the most awarded artists of all time and the most Grammy-awarded artist to have debuted in the 21st century.[7] Three of his albums have been included and ranked on Rolling Stone's 2012 update of the "500 Greatest Albums of All Time" list. He has also been included in a number of Forbes annual lists.[8] Time named him one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2005 and 2015.
West was born on June 8, 1977 in Atlanta, Georgia.[9][10] His parents divorced when he was three years old. After the divorce, he and his mother moved to Chicago, Illinois.[11][12] His father, Ray West, is a former Black Panther and was one of the first black photojournalists at The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Ray West was later a Christian counselor,[12] and in 2006, opened the Good Water Store and Café in Lexington Park, Maryland with startup capital from his son.[13][14] West's mother, Dr. Donda C. (Williams) West,[15] was a professor of English at Clark Atlanta University, and the Chair of the English Department at Chicago State University before retiring to serve as his manager. West was raised in a middle-class background, attending Polaris High School[16] in suburban Oak Lawn, Illinois after living in Chicago.[17]
West demonstrated an affinity for the arts at an early age; he began writing poetry when he was five years old.[20] His mother recalled that she first took notice of West's passion for drawing and music when he was in the third grade.[21] Growing up in Chicago, West became deeply involved in its hip hop scene. He started rapping in the third grade and began making musical compositions in the seventh grade, eventually selling them to other artists.[22] At age thirteen, West wrote a rap song called "Green Eggs and Ham" and began to persuade his mother to pay $25 an hour for time in a recording studio. It was a small, crude basement studio where a microphone hung from the ceiling by a wire clothes hanger. Although this wasn't what West's mother wanted, she nonetheless supported him.[20] West crossed paths with produceDJ No I.D., with whom he quickly formed a close friendship. No I.D. soon became West's mentor, and it was from him that West learned how to sample and program beats after he received his first sampler at age 15.[23]:557
After graduating from high school, West received a scholarship to attend Chicago's American Academy of Art in 1997 and began taking painting classes, but shortly after transferred to Chicago State University to study English. He soon realized that his busy class schedule was detrimental to his musical work, and at 20 he dropped out of college to pursue his musical dreams.[24] This action greatly displeased his mother, who was also a professor at the university. She later commented, "It was drummed into my head that college is the ticket to a good life... but some career goals don't require college. For Kanye to make an album called College Dropout it was more about having the guts to embrace who you are, rather than following the path society has carved out for you."[23]:558
1996–2002: Early work and Roc-A-Fella Records Kanye West began his early production career in the mid-1990s, making beats primarily for burgeoning local artists, eventually developing a style that involved speeding up vocal samples from classic soul records. His first official production credits came at the age of nineteen when he produced eight tracks on Down to Earth, the 1996 debut album of a Chicago rapper named Grav.[25] For a time, West acted as a ghost producer for Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie. Because of his association with D-Dot, West wasn't able to release a solo album, so he formed and became a member and producer of the Go-Getters, a late-1990s Chicago rap group composed of him, GLC, Timmy G, Really Doe, and Arrowstar.[26][27] His group was managed by John "Monopoly" Johnson, Don Crowley, and Happy Lewis under the management firm Hustle Period. After attending a series of promotional photo shoots and making some radio appearances, The Go-Getters released their first and only studio album World Record Holders in 1999. The album featured other Chicago-based rappers such as Rhymefest, Mikkey Halsted, Miss Criss, and Shayla G. Meanwhile, the production was handled by West, Arrowstar, Boogz, and Brian "All Day" Miller.[26]
West spent much of the late 1990s producing records for a number of well-known artists and music groups.[28] The third song on Foxy Brown's second studio album Chyna Doll was produced by West. Her second effort subsequently became the very first hip-hop album by a female rapper to debut at the top of the U.S. Billboard 200 chart in its first week of release.[28] West produced three of the tracks on Harlem World's first and only album The Movement alongside Jermaine Dupri and the production duo Trackmasters. His songs featured rappers Nas, Drag-On, and R&B singer Carl Thomas.[28] The ninth track from World Party, the last Goodie Mob album to feature the rap group's four founding members prior to their break-up, was co-produced by West with his manager Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie.[28] At the close of the millennium, West ended up producing six songs for Tell 'Em Why U Madd, an album that was released by D-Dot under the alias of The Madd Rapper; a fictional character he created for a skit on The Notorious B.I.G.'s second and final studio album Life After Death. West's songs featured guest appearances from rappers such as Ma$e, Raekwon, and Eminem.[28]
West received early acclaim for his production work on Jay-Z's The Blueprint; the two are pictured here in 2011. West got his big break in the year 2000, when he began to produce for artists on Roc-A-Fella Records. West came to achieve recognition and is often credited with revitalizing Jay-Z's career with his contributions to the rap mogul's influential 2001 album The Blueprint.[29] The Blueprint is consistently ranked among the greatest hip-hop albums, and the critical and financial success of the album generated substantial interest in West as a producer.[30] Serving as an in-house producer for Roc-A-Fella Records, West produced records for other artists from the label, including Beanie Sigel, Freeway, and Cam'ron. He also crafted hit songs for Ludacris, Alicia Keys, and Janet Jackson.[29][31][32][33]
Despite his success as a producer, West's true aspiration was to be a rapper. Though he had developed his rapping long before he began producing, it was often a challenge for West to be accepted as a rapper, and he struggled to attain a record deal.[32] Multiple record companies ignored him because he did not portray the 'gangsta image' prominent in mainstream hip hop at the time.[23]:556 After a series of meetings with Capitol Records, West was ultimately denied an artist deal.[22]
According to Capitol Record's A&R, Joe Weinberger, he was approached by West and almost signed a deal with him, but another person in the company convinced Capitol's president not to.[22] Desperate to keep West from defecting to another label, then-label head Damon Dash reluctantly signed West to Roc-A-Fella Records. Jay-Z later admitted that Roc-A-Fella was initially reluctant to support West as a rapper, claiming that many saw him as a producer first and foremost, and that his background contrasted with that of his labelmates.
West's breakthrough came a year later on October 23, 2002, when, while driving home from a California recording studio after working late, he fell asleep at the wheel and was involved in a near-fatal car crash.[35] The crash left him with a shattered jaw, which had to be wired shut in reconstructive surgery. The accident inspired West; two weeks after being admitted to the hospital, he recorded a song at the Record Plant Studios with his jaw still wired shut.[35] The composition, "Through The Wire", expressed West's experience after the accident, and helped lay the foundation for his debut album, as according to West "all the better artists have expressed what they were going through".[36][37] West added that "the album was my medicine", as working on the record distracted him from the pain.[38] "Through The Wire" was first available on West's Get Well Soon... mixtape, released December 2002.[39] At the same time, West announced that he was working on an album called The College Dropout, whose overall theme was to "make your own decisions. Don't let society tell you, 'This is what you have to do.'"[40]
Carrying a Louis Vuitton backpack filled with old disks and demos to the studio and back, West crafted much of his production for his debut album in less than fifteen minutes at a time. He recorded the remainder of the album in Los Angeles while recovering from the car accident. Once he had completed the album, it was leaked months before its release date.[32] However, West decided to use the opportunity to review the album, and The College Dropout was significantly remixed, remastered, and revised before being released. As a result, certain tracks originally destined for the album were subsequently retracted, among them "Keep the Receipt" with Ol' Dirty Bastard and "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" with Consequence.[42] West meticulously refined the production, adding string arrangements, gospel choirs, improved drum programming and new verses.[32] West's perfectionism led The College Dropout to have its release postponed three times from its initial date in August 2003.[43][44]
The College Dropout was eventually issued by Roc-A-Fella in February 2004, shooting to number two on the Billboard 200 as his debut single, "Through the Wire" peaked at number fifteen on the Billboard Hot 100 chart for five weeks.[45] "Slow Jamz", his second single featuring Twista and Jamie Foxx, became an even bigger success: it became the three musicians' first number one hit. The College Dropout received near-universal critical acclaim from contemporary music critics, was voted the top album of the year by two major music publications, and has consistently been ranked among the great hip-hop works and debut albums by artists. "Jesus Walks", the album's fourth single, perhaps exposed West to a wider audience; the song's subject matter concerns faith and Christianity. The song nevertheless reached the top 20 of the Billboard pop charts, despite industry executives' predictions that a song containing such blatant declarations of faith would never make it to radio.[46][47] The College Dropout would eventually be certified triple platinum in the US, and garnered West 10 Grammy nominations, including Album of the Year, and Best Rap Album (which it received).[48] During this period, West also founded GOOD Music, a record label and management company that would go on to house affiliate artists and producers, such as No I.D. and John Legend. At the time, the focal point of West's production style was the use of sped-up vocal samples from soul records.[49] However, partly because of the acclaim of The College Dropout, such sampling had been much copied by others; with that overuse, and also because West felt he had become too dependent on the technique, he decided to find a new sound.[50] During this time, he also produced singles for Brandy, Common, John Legend, and Slum Village.[51]
Beginning his second effort that fall, West would invest two million dollars and take over a year to craft his second album.[52] West was significantly inspired by Roseland NYC Live, a 1998 live album by English trip hop group Portishead, produced with the New York Philharmonic Orchestra.[53] Early in his career, the live album had inspired him to incorporate string arrangements into his hip-hop production. Though West had not been able to afford many live instruments around the time of his debut album, the money from his commercial success enabled him to hire a string orchestra for his second album Late Registration.[53] West collaborated with American film score composer Jon Brion, who served as the album's co-executive producer for several tracks.[54] Although Brion had no prior experience in creating hip-hop records, he and West found that they could productively work together after their first afternoon in the studio where they discovered that neither confined his musical knowledge and vision to one specific genre.[55] Late Registration sold over 2.3 million units in the United States alone by the end of 2005 and was considered by industry observers as the only successful major album release of the fall season, which had been plagued by steadily declining CD sales.[56]
2007–09: Graduation, 808s & Heartbreak, and VMAs controversy Main articles: Graduation (album) and 808s & Heartbreak Fresh off spending the previous year touring the world with U2 on their Vertigo Tour, West felt inspired to compose anthemic rap songs that could operate more efficiently in large arenas.[59] To this end, West incorporated the synthesizer into his hip-hop production, utilized slower tempos, and experimented with electronic music and influenced by music of the 1980s.[60][61] In addition to U2, West drew musical inspiration from arena rock bands such as The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin in terms of melody and chord progression.[61][62] To make his next effort, the third in a planned tetralogy of education-themed studio albums,[63] more introspective and personal in lyricism, West listened to folk and country singer-songwriters Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash in hopes of developing methods to augment his wordplay and storytelling ability.[53]
West working in the studio in 2008, accompanied by mentor No I.D. (left). West's third studio album, Graduation, garnered major publicity when its release date pitted West in a sales competition against rapper 50 Cent's Curtis.[64] Upon their September 2007 releases, Graduation outsold Curtis by a large margin, debuting at number one on the U.S. Billboard 200 chart and selling 957,000 copies in its first week.[65] Graduation once again continued the string of critical and commercial successes by West, and the album's lead single, "Stronger", garnered the rapper his third number-one hit.[66] "Stronger", which samples French house duo Daft Punk, has been accredited to not only encouraging other hip-hop artists to incorporate house and electronica elements into their music, but also for playing a part in the revival of disco and electro-infused music in the late 2000s.[67] Ben Detrick of XXL cited the outcome of the sales competition between 50 Cent's Curtis and West's Graduation as being responsible for altering the direction of hip-hop and paving the way for new rappers who didn't follow the hardcore-gangster mold, writing, "If there was ever a watershed moment to indicate hip-hop's changing direction, it may have come when 50 Cent competed with Kanye in 2007 to see whose album would claim superior sales."[68]
West's life took a different direction when his mother, Donda West, died of complications from cosmetic surgery involving abdominoplasty and breast reduction in November 2007.[69] Months later, West and fiancée Alexis Phifer ended their engagement and their long-term intermittent relationship, which had begun in 2002.[70] The events profoundly affected West, who set off for his 2008 Glow in the Dark Tour shortly thereafter.[71] Purportedly because his emotions could not be conveyed through rapping, West decided to sing using the voice audio processor Auto-Tune, which would become a central part of his next effort. West had previously experimented with the technology on his debut album The College Dropout for the background vocals of "Jesus Walks" and "Never Let Me Down." Recorded mostly in Honolulu, Hawaii in three weeks,[72] West announced his fourth album, 808s & Heartbreak, at the 2008 MTV Video Music Awards, where he performed its lead single, "Love Lockdown". Music audiences were taken aback by the uncharacteristic production style and the presence of Auto-Tune, which typified the pre-release response to the record.[73]
West performing in August 2008 on the Glow in the Dark Tour. 808s & Heartbreak, which features extensive use of the eponymous Roland TR-808 drum machine and contains themes of love, loneliness, and heartache, was released by Island Def Jam to capitalize on Thanksgiving weekend in November 2008.[74][75] Reviews were positive, though slightly more mixed than his previous efforts. Despite this, the record's singles demonstrated outstanding chart performances. Upon its release, the lead single "Love Lockdown" debuted at number three on the Billboard Hot 100 and became a "Hot Shot Debut",[76] while follow-up single "Heartless" performed similarly and became his second consecutive "Hot Shot Debut" by debuting at number four on the Billboard Hot 100.[77] While it was criticized prior to release, 808s & Heartbreak had a significant effect on hip-hop music, encouraging other rappers to take more creative risks with their productions.[78]
West's controversial incident the following year at the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards was arguably his biggest controversy, and led to widespread outrage throughout the music industry.[79] During the ceremony, West crashed the stage and grabbed the microphone from winner Taylor Swift in order to proclaim that, instead, Beyoncé's video for "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)", nominated for the same award, was "one of the best videos of all time". He was subsequently withdrawn from the remainder of the show for his actions. West's tour with Lady Gaga was cancelled in response to the controversy.[80]
2010–12: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and collaborations
Following the highly publicized incident, West took a brief break from music and threw himself into fashion, only to hole up in Hawaii for the next few months writing and recording his next album.[82] Importing his favorite producers and artists to work on and inspire his recording, West kept engineers behind the boards 24 hours a day and slept only in increments. Noah Callahan-Bever, a writer for Complex, was present during the sessions and described the "communal" atmosphere as thus: "With the right songs and the right album, he can overcome any and all controversy, and we are here to contribute, challenge, and inspire."[82] A variety of artists contributed to the project, including close friends Jay-Z, Kid Cudi and Pusha T, as well as off-the-wall collaborations, such as with Justin Vernon of Bon Iver.[83]
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, West's fifth studio album, was released in November 2010 to widespread acclaim from critics, many of whom considered it his best work and said it solidified his comeback.[84] In stark contrast to his previous effort, which featured a minimalist sound, Dark Fantasy adopts a maximalist philosophy and deals with themes of celebrity and excess.[49] The record included the international hit "All of the Lights", and Billboard hits "Power", "Monster", and "Runaway", the latter of which accompanied a 35-minute film of the same name.[85] During this time, West initiated the free music program GOOD Fridays through his website, offering a free download of previously unreleased songs each Friday, a portion of which were included on the album. This promotion ran from August 20 – December 17, 2010. Dark Fantasy went on to go platinum in the United States,[86] but its omission as a contender for Album of the Year at the 54th Grammy Awards was viewed as a "snub" by several media outlets.[87]
Following a headlining set at Coachella 2011 that was described by The Hollywood Reporter as "one of greatest hip-hop sets of all time",[88] West released the collaborative album Watch the Throne with Jay-Z. By employing a sales strategy that released the album digitally weeks before its physical counterpart, Watch the Throne became one of the few major label albums in the Internet age to avoid a leak.[89][90] "Niggas in Paris" became the record's highest charting single, peaking at number five on the Billboard Hot 100.[85] In 2012, West released the compilation album Cruel Summer, a collection of tracks by artists from West's record label GOOD Music. Cruel Summer produced four singles, two of which charted within the top twenty of the Hot 100: "Mercy" and "Clique".[85] West also directed a film of the same name that premiered at the 2012 Cannes Film Festival in custom pyramid-shaped screening pavilion featuring seven screens.[91]
2013–15: Yeezus and Adidas collaboration
Sessions for West's sixth solo effort begin to take shape in early 2013 in his own personal loft's living room at a Paris hotel.[92] Determined to "undermine the commercial",[93] he once again brought together close collaborators and attempted to incorporate Chicago drill, dancehall, acid house, and industrial music.[94] Primarily inspired by architecture,[92] West's perfectionist tendencies led him to contact producer Rick Rubin fifteen days shy of its due date to strip down the record's sound in favor of a more minimalist approach.[95] Initial promotion of his sixth album included worldwide video projections of the album's music and live television performances.[96][97] Yeezus, West's sixth album, was released June 18, 2013 to rave reviews from critics.[98] It became the rapper's sixth consecutive number one debut, but also marked his lowest solo opening week sales.[99] Def Jam issued "Black Skinhead" to radio in July 2013 as the album's lead single.[100]
On September 6, 2013, Kanye West announced he would be headlining his first solo tour in five years, to support Yeezus, with fellow American rapper Kendrick Lamar accompanying him as supporting act.[101][102] The tour was met with rave reviews from critics.[103] Rolling Stone described it as "crazily entertaining, hugely ambitious, emotionally affecting (really!) and, most importantly, totally bonkers."[103] Writing for Forbes, Zack O'Malley Greenburg praised West for "taking risks that few pop stars, if any, are willing to take in today's hyper-exposed world of pop," describing the show as "overwrought and uncomfortable at times, but [it] excels at challenging norms and provoking thought in a way that just isn't common for mainstream musical acts of late."[104]
In June 2013, West and television personality Kim Kardashian announced the birth of their first child, North. In October 2013, West and Kardashian announced their engagement to widespread media attention.[105] November 2013, West stated that he was beginning work on his next studio album, hoping to release it by mid-2014,[106] with production by Rick Rubin and Q-Tip.[107] In December 2013, Adidas announced the beginning of their official apparel collaboration with West, to be premiered the following year.[108] In May 2014, West and Kardashian were married in a private ceremony in Florence, Italy, with a variety of artists and celebrities in attendance.[105] West released a single, "Only One", featuring Paul McCartney, on December 31, 2014.[109]
Having initially announced a new album entitled So Help Me God slated for a 2014 release, in March 2015 West announced that the album would instead be tentatively called SWISH.[114] Later that month, West was awarded an honorary doctorate by the School of the Art Institute of Chicago for his contributions to music, fashion, and popular culture, officially making him an honorary DFA.[115] The next month, West headlined at the Glastonbury Festival in the UK, despite a petition signed by almost 135,000 people against his appearance.[116] Toward the end of the set, West proclaimed himself: "the greatest living rock star on the planet."[117] Media outlets, including social media sites such as Twitter, were divided on his performance.[118][119] NME stated, "The decision to book West for the slot has proved controversial since its announcement, and the show itself appeared to polarise both Glastonbury goers and those who tuned in to watch on their TVs."[119] The publication added that "he's letting his music speak for and prove itself."[120] The Guardian said that "his set has a potent ferocity – but there are gaps and stutters, and he cuts a strangely lone figure in front of the vast crowd."[121] In December 2015, West released a song titled "Facts".[122]
2016–present: The Life of Pablo and Turbo Grafx 16
West announced in January 2016 that SWISH would be released on February 11, and that month released new songs "Real Friends" and a snippet of "No More Parties in L.A." with Kendrick Lamar. This also revived the GOOD Fridays initiative in which Kanye releases new singles every Friday. On January 26, 2016, West revealed he had renamed the album from SWISH to Waves, and also announced the premier of his Yeezy Season 3 clothing line at Madison Square Garden.[123] In the weeks leading up to the album's release, West became embroiled in several Twitter controversies[124] and released several changing iterations of the track list for the new album. Several days ahead of its release, West again changed the title, this time to The Life of Pablo.[125] On February 11, West premiered the album at Madison Square Garden as part of the presentation of his Yeezy Season 3 clothing line.[126] Following the preview, West announced that he would be modifying the track list once more before its release to the public,[127] and further delayed its release to finalize the recording of the track "Waves" at the behest of co-writer Chance the Rapper. He released the album exclusively on Tidal on 14 February 2016 following a performance on SNL.[128][129] Following its official streaming release, West continued to tinker with mixes of several tracks, describing the work as "a living breathing changing creative expression"[130] and proclaiming the end of the album as a dominant release form.[131] Although a statement by West around Life of Pablo's initial release indicated that the album would be a permanent exclusive to Tidal, the album was released through several other competing services starting in April.[132]
On February 24, 2016, West stated on Twitter that he was planning to release another album in the summer of 2016, tentatively called Turbo Grafx 16 in reference to the 1990s video game console of the same name.[133][134] On June 3, 2016, West premiered the first single "Champions" off the GOOD Music album Cruel Winter, which was six minutes and featured Travis Scott, Big Sean, Gucci Mane, Desiigner, Yo Gotti, Quavo, and 2 Chainz.[135][136] He told the radio host, Big Boy, that the beat had been in works for a year and a half.[135] In June, West released a controversial video for "Famous," which depicted wax figures of several celebrities (including West, Kardashian, Taylor Swift, president and businessman Donald Trump, comedian Bill Cosby, and former president George W. Bush) sleeping nude in a shared bed.[137] In August 2016, West embarked on the Saint Pablo Tour in support of The Life of Pablo.[138] The performances featured a mobile stage suspended from the ceiling.[138] West postponed several dates in October following the Paris robbery of his wife Kim Kardashian.[139] On November 21, 2016, West cancelled the remaining 21 dates on the Saint Pablo Tour, following a week of no-shows, curtailed concerts and rants about politics.[140] He was later admitted for psychiatric observation at UCLA Medical Center.[141][142] He stayed hospitalized over the Thanksgiving weekend stemming from a temporary psychosis stemming from sleep deprivation and extreme dehydration.[143]The current West seems to be based on trying to create a world that he wants his daughter, North, to grow up in. In an interview for Paper (magazine) West states that all that time, all the seemingly sporadic actions and outbursts, he was fighting for his daughter Nori’s future “‘Let's just tap back into the real world for a second we can have children. Let’s be thankful, we can raise our kids, let’s be thankful. But how about we raise our kids in a truthful world, not a world based on brands and concepts of perception? Perception is not reality. When I look in North's eyes, I'm happy about every mistake I've ever made. I'm happy that I fought to bring some type of reality to this world we choose to stay in right now, driven by brands and corporations.'"[144]
Early in his career, West made clear his interest in fashion and desire to work in the clothing design industry.[36][92] In September 2005, West announced that he would release his Pastelle Clothing line in spring 2006, claiming "Now that I have a Grammy under my belt and Late Registration is finished, I am ready to launch my clothing line next spring."[186] The line was developed over the following four years – with multiple pieces teased by West himself – before the line was ultimately cancelled in 2009.[187][188] In 2009, West collaborated with Nike to release his own shoe, the Air Yeezys, with a second version released in 2012. In January 2009, West introduced his first shoe line designed for Louis Vuitton during Paris Fashion Week. The line was released in summer 2009.[189] West has additionally designed shoewear for Bape and Italian shoemaker Giuseppe Zanotti.[190]
On October 1, 2011, Kanye West premiered his women's fashion label, DW Kanye West[191] at Paris Fashion Week. He received support from DSquared2 duo Dean and Dan Caten, Olivier Theyskens, Jeremy Scott, Azzedine Alaïa, and the Olsen twins, who were also in attendance during his show. His debut fashion show received mixed-to-negative reviews,[192] ranging from reserved observations by Style.com[193] to excoriating commentary in The Wall Street Journal,[194] The New York Times,[195] the International Herald Tribune, Elleuk.com, The Daily Telegraph, Harper's Bazaar and many others.[196][197][198] On March 6, 2012, West premiered a second fashion line at Paris Fashion Week.[199][200] The line's reception was markedly improved from the previous presentation, with a number of critics heralding West for his "much improved" sophomore effort.[201]
An advertisement for West's 2015 shoe collaboration with Adidas, the Yeezy 350. On December 3, 2013, Adidas officially confirmed a new shoe collaboration deal with West.[108] After months of anticipation and rumors, West confirmed the release of the Adidas Yeezy Boosts. In 2015, West unveiled his Yeezy Season clothing line, premiering Season 1 in collaboration with Adidas early in the year.[202] The line received positive critical reviews, with Vogue observing "a protective toughness, a body-conscious severity that made the clothes more than a simple accessory."[203] The release of the Yeezy Boosts and the full Adidas collaboration was showcased in New York City on February 12, 2015, with free streaming to 50 cinemas in 13 countries around the world.[204] An initial release of the Adidas Yeezy Boosts was limited to 9000 pairs to be available only in New York City via the Adidas smartphone app; the Adidas Yeezy Boosts were sold out within 10 minutes.[205] The shoes released worldwide on February 28, 2015, were limited to select boutique stores and the Adidas UK stores. He followed with Season 2 later that year at New York Fashion Week.[110] On February 11, West premiered his Yeezy Season 3 clothing line at Madison Square Garden in conjunction with the previewing of his album The Life of Pablo.[126] In June 2016, Adidas announced a new long-term contract with Kanye West which sees the Yeezy line extend to a number of stores and enter sports performance products.[206] The Yeezys will be seen in basketball, football, soccer, and more.[206]
West founded the record label and production company GOOD Music in 2004, in conjunction with Sony BMG, shortly after releasing his debut album, The College Dropout. John Legend, Common, and West were the label's inaugural artists.[208] The label houses artists including West, Big Sean, Pusha T, Teyana Taylor, Yasiin Bey / Mos Def, D'banj and John Legend, and producers including Hudson Mohawke, Q-Tip, Travis Scott, No I.D., Jeff Bhasker, and S1. GOOD Music has released ten albums certified gold or higher by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). In November 2015, West appointed Pusha T the new president of GOOD Music.[209]
West, alongside his mother, founded the "Kanye West Foundation" in Chicago in 2003, tasked with a mission to battle dropout and illiteracy rates, while partnering with community organizations to provide underprivileged youth access to music education.[226] In 2007, the West and the Foundation partnered with Strong American Schools as part of their "Ed in '08" campaign.[227][228] As spokesman for the campaign, West appeared in a series of PSAs for the organization, and hosted an inaugural benefit concert in August of that year.[229]
West has been an outspoken and controversial celebrity throughout his career, receiving both criticism and praise from many, including the mainstream media, other artists and entertainers, and two U.S. presidents.[36][92] On September 2, 2005, during a benefit concert for Hurricane Katrina relief on NBC, A Concert for Hurricane Relief, West (a featured speaker) accused President George W. Bush of not "car[ing] about black people". When West was presenting alongside actor Mike Myers, he deviated from the prepared script to criticize the media's portrayal of hurricane victims, saying:
I hate the way they portray us in the media. You see a black family, it says, 'They're looting.' You see a white family, it says, 'They're looking for food.' And, you know, it's been five days [waiting for federal help] because most of the people are black. And even for me to complain about it, I would be a hypocrite because I've tried to turn away from the TV because it's too hard to watch. I've even been shopping before even giving a donation, so now I'm calling my business manager right now to see what is the biggest amount I can give, and just to imagine if I was down there, and those are my people down there. So anybody out there that wants to do anything that we can help—with the way America is set up to help the poor, the black people, the less well-off, as slow as possible. I mean, the Red Cross is doing everything they can. We already realize a lot of people that could help are at war right now, fighting another way—and they've given them permission to go down and shoot us!
Myers spoke next and continued to read the script. Once it was West's turn to speak again, he said, "George Bush doesn't care about black people." At this point, telethon producer Rick Kaplan cut off the microphone and then cut away to Chris Tucker, who was unaware of the cut for a few seconds. Still, West's comment reached much of the United States.[243][244] Bush stated in an interview that the comment was "one of the most disgusting moments" of his presidency.[58] In November 2010, in a taped interview with Matt Lauer for the Today show, West expressed regret for his criticism of Bush. "I would tell George Bush in my moment of frustration, I didn't have the grounds to call him a racist", he told Lauer. "I believe that in a situation of high emotion like that we as human beings don't always choose the right words." The following day, Bush reacted to the apology in a live interview with Lauer saying he appreciated the rapper's remorse. "I'm not a hater", Bush said. "I don't hate Kanye West. I was talking about an environment in which people were willing to say things that hurt. Nobody wants to be called a racist if in your heart you believe in equality of races."[245] Reactions were mixed, but some felt that West had no need to apologize. "It was not the particulars of your words that mattered, it was the essence of a feeling of the insensitivity towards our communities that many of us have felt for far too long", argued Def Jam co-founder Russell Simmons.[246] Bush himself was receptive to the apology, saying, "I appreciate that. It wasn't just Kanye West who was talking like that during Katrina, I cited him as an example, I cited others as an example as well. You know, I appreciate that."[247]
On September 13, 2009, during the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards while Taylor Swift was accepting her award for Best Female Video for "You Belong with Me", West went on stage and grabbed the microphone to proclaim that Beyoncé's video for "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)", nominated for the same award, was "one of the best videos of all time". He was subsequently removed from the remainder of the show for his actions.[79][268][269] When Beyoncé later won the award for Best Video of the Year for "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)", she called Swift up on stage so that she could finish her acceptance speech.[268] West was criticized by various celebrities for the outburst,[79][270][271][272] and by President Barack Obama, who called West a "jackass".[273][274][275][276] In addition, West's VMA disruption sparked a large influx of Internet photo memes with blogs, forums and "tweets" with the "Let you finish" photo-jokes.[277] He posted a Tweet soon after the event where he stated, "Everybody wanna booooo me but I'm a fan of real pop culture... I'm not crazy y'all, I'm just real."[278] He then posted two apologies for the outburst on his personal blog; one on the night of the incident, and the other the following day, when he also apologized during an appearance on The Jay Leno Show.[271][279] After Swift appeared on The View two days after the outburst, partly to discuss the matter, West called her to apologize personally. Swift said she accepted his apology.[280][281][282]
West began an on-and-off relationship with designer Alexis Phifer in 2002, and they became engaged in August 2006. The pair ended their 18-month engagement in 2008.[304] West subsequently dated model Amber Rose from 2008 until the summer of 2010.[305] West began dating reality star and longtime friend[306] Kim Kardashian in April 2012.[307] West and Kardashian became engaged in October 2013,[308][309] and married on May 24, 2014 at Fort di Belvedere in Florence, Italy.[310] Their private ceremony was subject to widespread mainstream coverage, with West taking issue with the couple's portrayal in the media.[311] They have two children: daughter North "Nori" West (born June 15, 2013)[312][313] and son Saint West (born December 5, 2015).[314] In April 2015, West and Kardashian traveled to Jerusalem to have North baptized in the Armenian Apostolic Church at the Cathedral of St. James.[315] The couple's high status and respective careers have resulted in their relationship becoming subject to heavy media coverage; The New York Times referred to their marriage as "a historic blizzard of celebrity."[316]
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2015.10.04 05:53 tabledresser [Table] IamA a semi truck driver in the USA, AMA!

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What things do truckers do that most regular drivers don't understand? (like Turing off all the running lights and turning them back on) Flashing the running lights is usually how we say thank you to each other, we flash our headlights as well to say you're welcome (STOP FLASHING YOUR BRIGHTS AT US!) We will drive next to each other when we see something going on down the road so you will merge in behind us to keep everyone safe. If we have our flashers on SOMETHING IS GOING DOWN! Anything I missed?
Also, I work as a research assistant at a transportation Institute at a university. What innovations would you like to see in the trucking world? What innovations? How about internet in the trucks? Or that screen that helps people see if they are safe to pass us. Lights that come on to help us when we are back into dark places. Auto raising and lowering trailers for hookups. Better technology integration for a heads up display on the windsheild for things like speed, routing and weather. Some kind of tech that helps eliminate blind spots like screens. For gods sake I want all of the paperwork (ie the load info and such) To be digital so that when I walk in I just have to give them a company name and trailer number and they have it all infront of them, can mark it as recieved and so on. I can update it all through my elog interface. I don't ever want to mess with physical paperwork again! Make an app so that I can track it all, make notes, send messages and so forth from my phone as well as the elog interface. Also, WE NEED A MODERN SYSTEM for our elogs. Most of them run on windows NT...
Thoughts on automated cars? And maybe automated semis in the future? As for automated cars and trucks I'm completely cool with that, I think it will help further mans ability to pursue their dreams without a need for menial jobs. I also think it will save millions of lives. Even if someone HAS to sit behind the wheel anyway just in case it would be a major improvement.
What do truck drivers talk about on CB radios? Do you guys talk shit about other drivers? Any nicknames you guys give each other? And also what can us, regular car drivers, do on the road that will help you guys out? Not many use the CB anymore. About the only time it ever seems active is around towns or areas where there are a lot of truck services, around a wreck/construction or late a night (though that one is iffy.) Yes we do! Every company has its problems so we rag on them all, but ones like SWIFT, Werner, Stevens and CRST are CDL factories so they put out a ton of drivers without having much experience so they tend to catch a lot of flack for accidents and stupid behavior. Most of it to each other though it nothing more than friendly ribbing. Yeah, some guys get and give nicknames but I haven't seen it too often. The best thing y'all can do is remember that our trucks are governed, when we go up we slow down and when we do something like turn on flashers or drive side by side there is usually a reason. Slow down, give us space and stop cutting us off. Also remember that if you can't see our mirrors we can't see you! We have a ton of blind spots and can't react quickly without possibly causing a roll over or jackknife. Also, quit flashing your brights at us please...
Thanks for doing this. I was wondering how much did it cost and how long did it take to obtain your CDL? Is the professional driver industry like aviation where the more hours you have logged the better company or job you can get? Also, what is the best way to get training? It is similar in a lot of ways. I only paid for the test and the practical test with the DPS, the training, lodging and such were all paid for by the company I hired on with. Signed a year contract with them in exchange for no cost. I went with one called FFE (Frozen Freight Express) for training. They are great for getting your CDL and that first year of exp but you should run after thats done. Also, all companies have different requirements in exp, but your best bet for most companies is one year exp OTR or over the road.
Forgot to mention, the course I went through took 2 1/2 weeks to get the license, 6 weeks of on the job trainer after. The best way is to go to an truck driving school with a company so none of it is out of pocket and you have a guaranteed job when you're done.
My dad used to drive semi, I'm curious how hard it is to"cook" log books these days? Especially with electronic logs becoming more common. Also what's the most ridiculous story you've ever heard about a fellow driver? Well if you are using Elogs its basically impossible, which is why they are being mandated these days. Honestly I'm ok with that since they keep me legal and well rested. As for the stories there is a lot of what I like to call "Channel 19 chatter" referring to channel 19 on the CB which most truckers use. It means most of everything truckers say is bullshit. Which is why I prefer to be called a Professional Driver, and only use 'trucker' as a bad name. Anyway, one guy went on a run from the cops hauling hanging meat and after nearly 100 miles he flipped the truck on an off ramp. The guy said he was wearing earphones didn't notice them following him... safe to say he is in jail.
What's the craziest sexual episode you've had? My girlfriend, eventual co-driver once got naked and started masturbating in the passenger seat then handed me the control to the vibrating egg and told me if I pulled over she would stop. This was in broad daylight and so any time another truck would go by she would put on a show for them too. After a while she finally started to give me head, but the shifter didn't make that easy so we pulled into the first lot we could find and went at it... wasnt until we woke up in the morning that we noticed it was a DOT weigh station... they applauded us as we went to the restroom. Got a clean inspection though!
Oh Geeze!! Tattle tail!! Lol I thought the saying went "what happens in the truck stays on the truck" not splattered on the Internet!! XD. I don't blame them seeing you like that...
It was fun though >.> almost caused a few accidents though cuz drivers can't seem to focus on the road >.> Besides, wasn't just splattered on the net =P.
How often do you go home? worst state drive through? Well with the first job I got home about ever 4-6 weeks, the last job about every 2 weeks. I'm looking for something to get me home every night though. Worst state depends on worst how... Nebrasa is empty, ugly and has no cell service, Massachusetts has crappy roads and they are designed like a drunk idiot made them. Rhode Island has tiny roads that SUCK. In Georgia not just the cops but the drivers are out to kill you or run you off the road, Oklahoma, Kansas and Illinois are covered in tolls... all just depends.
From MA can confirm Great chowdah, crappy place to drive lol. One of my favorite stories comes from a Boston fish market. It was winter so over my long johns I was wearing black slacks, a black wool peacoat, a black wool fedora and black sunglasses. I went in to drop off the paperwork and get unloaded and EVERYONE inside stopped and was staring at me... Turns out they thought I was with the mob!
Where are the best places to drive through? Tennessee probably has the best roads and is really trucker friendly, Texas is really friendly as well. Anywhere mid to northwest is gorgeous. Utah, Wyoming, Alabama, Idaho... All gorgeous. Also, California is pretty but hates truckers with a passion.
I have a lot of respect for truck drivers, it actually seems like it's a stressful job maneuvering that big rig. My question is, how stressful is it? And also, how many hookers have you picked up during your career? Rofl, it can be very stressful. Have you ever driven in the ice during the night on a mountain in bad traffic? Its like that... but all the time. Well, that might be a bit of an exaggeration. We have to deal with people who don't know how to drive for everyone on the road or who only care about themselves so its a pain, but then there are times when I'm driving through the countryside looking out onto the mountains and everything in the world seems right. Also, never. If a lot lizard is ever good looking enough to actually sleep with then repeat after me "No thanks officer"
The most stressful part in my experience was learning to stay slow. That being slow is not a bad thing at all. It keeps you safe and it keeps you from hitting things (as often in some cases... People are still cocky and stupid) as well as the backing. Backing took me a while to get down and still to this day I will make all the other drivers in line mad because I will CONSTANTLY use my G.O.A.L. (Get Out And Look) and stop the truck to get out and see how much space I have while blocking them. Because I want to be safe and not have to do a pile of paperwork or lose my license because I hit something. It's the same with driving a car though... Be safe.. How often do you like to sing your car because you paid minimal attention and hit something? Also, fuck em. If you're being safe then you're fine.
Dose your stuff get stolen by people in blacked out cars alot? and do you get many of them with your shotgun? I'm assuming there is a reference I'm missing but there is some truth to this. In places like Detroit, New York and Indiana etc they will try to jack you if you come to a full stop or don't park in a way that your trailer doors are blocked. Its also illegal to carry a gun (in a lot of places) so I've never shot anyone. Honestly most of us carry though because we're not stupid, I've also had to come out with a machete and a bat a couple of times though.
Pretty sure it's a Fast and the Furious reference. Ah that would make sense... If that cramp was happening I would carry a sawed off.
He's probably just referring to generic action movie cliches. The truck is carrying government secrets/Gold bars/Dangerous Political PrisoneDoomsday device, and the heroes/thieves/terrorists are attempting to rob/hijack the truck in a high speed chase down a desert highway/narrow canyon road. Sadly (or maybe not so much) my time has never been that exciting.
Are your dispatchers as annoying to you as they are to me sometimes? Fuck yes! They are irritating as hell sometimes, most of the time as long as you communicate with me and keep me rolling we're fine. Don't call me unless it's an emergency, that's what email and elogs are for, and don't badger me about crap I know already. And for gods sake please keep me moving without having to remind you I exist every other day... That's what just makes me bypass a dispatcher and go straight to the load planners.
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2013.12.27 19:44 NEBRASSKICKER [35 Bowls in 17 Days] The Fight Hunger Bowl

The Fight Hunger Bowl
University of Washington vs. Brigham Young University
BYU vs Washington Record: 4-4
Bowl Information
Date: December 27th, 2013
Time: 9:30 PM EST
Channel: ESPN
Broadcast Crew: Dave Pasch, Brian Greise, Tom Luginbill
Point Spread: Washington -3
O/U: 60
Bowl History
Year Founded: 2002
Location: San Francisco, CA
Stadium: AT&T Park (Capacity 40,184)
What a
beautiful place
for a football game!
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Conference Tie-ins: 6th in Pac-12 versus BYU
Payout: $1,000,000 (Washington); $850,000 (BYU)
Trophy: Fight Hunger Bowl Trophy
2012 Season Result: Arizona State 62 - Navy 28
Sophomore quarterback Taylor Kelly threw four touchdown passes and ran for a fifth score to lead Arizona State to its first bowl win in seven years, a 62-28 rout over Navy. The win put a finish to the first successful season for the Sun Devils under coach Todd Graham. Sen. John McCain, a former Navy fighter pilot who represents Arizona in Congress, handled the pre-game toss. Instead of using a coin, the game sponsored by Kraft uses an Oreo, with one side being a chocolate cookie and the other vanilla.
Recap
Full Game
Fight Hunger Bowl History:
Recognizing that the San Francisco Giants occupy AT&T Park only about 85 days each year, the Giants in 1999 established a new branch, Giants Enterprises, to develop non-baseball uses for the ballpark. During construction of the venue, the Giants discovered that the turf surface was big enough to accommodate a full sized football field, and plans were put in motion to bring the a football game to AT&T Park.
Giants Enterprises president Pat Gallagher, teamed up with John Marks (president of the SFCVB) and Gary Cavalli (a 30-year veteran of the pro and college sports industry) and launched an effort to establish a college bowl game in the City by the Bay.
After acquiring a four-year agreement with the two conferences and a seven-year commitment from ESPN, Cavalli and Gallagher appeared before the NCAA Post-season Football Committee on April 30, 2002. Two days later, the NCAA granted initial certification to the new San Francisco Bowl, culminating a two-and-a-half year effort.
The bowl has had 4 different names in it’s 12 year history including The Diamond Walnut San Francisco Bowl (2002-2003), The Emerald Bowl (2004-2009), The Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl (2010-2012), and simply The Fight Hunger Bowl (2013). Starting in 2014, the bowl will be moved to its new home at Levi’s Stadium (home of the San Francisco 49ers) where it will have a new title sponsor and host the 4th place team in the Pac-12 and the 5th or 7th place team in the Big Ten.
Historic Games:
2004 Emerald Bowl Navy 34 vs New Mexico 19
Prior to the game the New Mexico Lobos were favored by a single point. The game was highlighted by a 26-play, 14 minute-26 second drive from the Midshipmen that took just over 32 minutes in real time and set the record for the longest drive in a National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) college football game. Navy’s win lifted their record to 10-2 for the season, making it their second 10 win season in history and the first in 99 years.
Highlights
2008 Emerald Bowl Miami 17 vs California 24
ESPN’s primetime telecast of the 2008 Emerald Bowl was the network’s 8th most-watched college football bowl game ever, according to ratings figures compiled by the network and rightly so. After being in and out of the top 25 rankings all season, both teams were itching for a win. The Bears jumped out to an early 14–0 lead, but true freshman QB Harris was able to lead the Hurricanes back with touchdown passes in the second and third quarter while the Miami defense was able to shut out the Cal offense in the second quarter and limited them to a field goal in the third. With 3:28 left in the game, Cal Linebacker Zack Follett forced a turnover deep in Miami territory. Anthony Miller scored the go-ahead touchdown on his first career catch 47 seconds later. The win gave California a 9-4 record and propelled them into the top 25 in the Coaches’ Poll.
Full Game
Highilghts
Fun Facts
  • The Fight Hunger Bowl is one of three college bowl games played in baseball-specific stadiums, alongside the Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl in St. Petersburg, Florida, played at Tropicana Field, and the Pinstripe Bowl in New York, played at Yankee Stadium.
  • The 2013 Fight Hunger Bowl will be the first FBS football game in history with two female officials..
  • Because AT&T Park is not normally used for football, the arrangement of the playing field requires both teams to be on the same sideline, separated by a barrier at the 50-yard line.
  • The bowl is one of only two bowl games this year without a title sponsor, the other being The Texas Bowl.
The Cause
  • The Bowl will donate one meal for every ticket sold to the game!
  • The Bowl has donated over 300,000 meals in three years to the Bay Area's hungry.
  • During Bowl Week, each team spent time giving back to the Bay Area. This year, Washington visited GLIDE, and BYU visited St. Anthony's. Both teams worked to prep and serve meals to San Francisco's needy on Christmas Day. By volunteering, the players not only help the Bay Area hunger crisis, but they also gain awareness and a new perspective. We hope the players are inspired to continue to give back to their own communities.
Donations can be made year round to these charities.
University of Washington Huskies
Bowl Record: 16-16-1
Season Bowl Opponent Score W/L
1923 Rose Bowl Navy 14-14 T
1925 Rose Bowl Alabama 19-20 L
1936 Rose Bowl Pittsburgh 0-21 L
1937 Poi Bowl Hawaii 53-13 W
1943 Rose Bowl USC 0-29 L
1959 Rose Bowl Wisconsin 44-8 W
1960 Rose Bowl Minnesota 17-7 W
1963 Rose Bowl Illinois 7-17 L
1977 Rose Bowl Michigan 27-20 W
1979 Sun Bowl Texas 14-7 W
1980 Rose Bowl Michigan 6-23 L
1981 Rose Bowl Iowa 28-0 W
1982 Aloha Bowl Maryland 21-20 W
1983 Aloha Bowl Penn State 10-13 L
1984 Orange Bowl Oklahoma 28-17 W
1985 Freedom Bowl Colorado 20-17 W
1986 Sun Bowl Alabama 6-28 L
1987 Independence Bowl Tulane 24-12 W
1989 Freedom Bowl Florida 34-7 W
1990 Rose Bowl Iowa 46-34 W
1991 Rose Bowl Michigan 34-14 W
1992 Rose Bowl Michigan 31-38 L
1995 Sun Bowl Iowa 18-38 L
1996 Holiday Bowl Colorado 21-33 L
1997 Aloha Bowl Michigan State 51-23 W
1998 Oahu Bowl Air Force 25-45 L
1999 Holiday Bowl Kansas State 20-24 L
2000 Rose Bowl Purdue 34-24 W
2001 Holiday Bowl Texas 43-47 L
2002 Sun Bowl Purdue 34-24 L
2010 Holiday Bowl Nebraska 19-7 W
2011 Alamo Bowl Baylor 56-67 L
2012 Las Vegas Bowl Boise State 26-28 L
2013 Fight Hunger Bowl BYU ? ?
Washington Bowl Game Posters, Programs, and Images Album
Historic Bowl Games:
1992 Rose Bowl - Washington 34 Michigan 14
Washington came into Pasadena at 10-0, and with the #1 ranking in the Coach’s Poll. The Huskies got off to a blistering start, as Napoleon Kauffman took the opening kick back to midfield. However, the game was broken open in the second half, which started with the score at 13-7. The Huskies would score 21 unanswered points on the arms of Billy Joe Hobert and Mark Brunell before allowing a touchdown late in the fourth quarter. This game solidified the University of Washington’s most recent National Championship.
2010 Holiday Bowl - Washington 19 Nebraska 7
Having not played in a bowl game since 2002, and with the stigma of the winless 2008 season still fresh, the Huskies beat Washington State in the 2010 Apple Cup to become bowl-eligible. The Huskies had also been beaten demolished by the Huskers at home earlier that season, so the Holiday Bowl was a chance at redemption. Led by Jake Locker’s gutty performance in his last game as a Husky, the Dawgs played a tough, physical game that included rushing TDs from Locker and Chris Polk. Linebacker Mason Foster had a standout performance as well, knocking embattled Husker QB Taylor Martinez out of the game. Washington’s win set the program on the correct course in many Husky fans’ minds, and the Huskies have gone bowling in each season since.
2013 Season Record: 8-4
Date Opponent Result Highlights
8/31 Boise State W 38-6 Video
9/7 Illinois W 34-24 Video
9/21 Idaho State W 56-0 Video
9/28 Arizona W 31-13 Video
10/5 Stanford L 31-28 Video
10/12 Oregon L 45-24 Video
10/19 Arizona State L 53-24 Video
10/26 California W 41-17 Video
11/9 Colorado W 59-7 Video
11/15 UCLA L 41-31 Video
11/23 Oregon State W 69-27 Video
11/29 Washington State W 27-17 Video
11/29 BYU ? ?
Home Away
Key Players this Season:
Bishop Sankey - Highlights
A second-team All American and Doak Walker Award Finalist, Bishop Sankey has had arguably the best season for a tailback in Washington history. Breaking Napoleon Kaufman’s single-season rushing touchdown record as well as Corey Dillon’s single-season rushing yards record, Sankey is a well-rounded feature-back. Most believe that Sankey will forgo his senior year at the UW and enter the NFL draft, making the Fight Hunger Bowl his last game in a Husky uniform.
Keith Price - Highlights
In a pass-heavy conference, Keith Price’s numbers got buried this season due to Washington’s reliance on Sankey and the run game. However, don’t let his lack of yardage fool you for a lack of production. Price threw the second fewest interceptions, and had the second highest QBR in the Pac-12 this season. Price is an efficient passer, and has some mobility to escape the pocket.
Austin Seferian-Jenkins - Highlights
Austin Seferian-Jenkins is the winner of the 2013 Mackey Award, honoring the nation’s best tight end. ASJ is an elite-caliber blocker, with ball-skills that are unmatched at his position. At 6’ 6”, 275 lbs., Austin has a size advantage on almost everyone on the field. His pass-catching ability coupled with his size and blocking skill have many projecting Seferian-Jenkins as a next-level tight end.
Biggest Plays this Season:
Great throw by Price to Perkins vs Boise St.
Coming in to the Boise St. game, people weren’t sure if Keith Price would be back to his 2011 form. In front of a packed house at Husky Stadium, Keith made his case and put on a showtime performance highlighted by this amazing scrambling TD pass to put Huskies up by 18 and further seal the victory.
John Ross great kickoff return.
John Ross opened the Oregon State game with this great kickoff return, which put momentum in the Huskies favor in one of their most complete wins of the season.
Interception by John Timu to seal the Apple Cup win.
This interception by John Timu prevented WSU QB Conner Halliday from mounting a comeback late in the 4th and sealed the deal for the Huskies, bringing the trophy back to the shores of Montlake.
Season Summary:
Season Review Video
2013 was a bit of a disappointment for Husky fans, who had images of the Rose Bowl dancing in our heads. After starting the season 4-0, the Pac-12 North was within reach with the toughest part of the schedule ahead of us. A controversial and very close loss to Stanford in Palo Alto, followed by a loss to Oregon in Seattle ended that conversation. Then, an absolutely terrible game in Tempe saw the Dawgs give up 53 points to squash any hope of an AP ranking this season. That being said, the Huskies have finally eclipsed the 7-win mark, and look to be an improving program that could challenge for the Pac-12 North Title sooner rather than later.
The Huskies basically won the games they should have won (with the exception of the ASU game) and lost the games that they came into as underdogs to finish the regular season at 8-4. A high point of the season was ESPN College Game Day’s visit to campus for the Oregon game, marking CGD’s first trip to the state of Washington. Other high-points were the opening of the newly remodeled Husky Stadium in a 38-6 victory over Boise State, a 69-27 blowout of Oregon State, and an Apple Cup win to end the regular season. Low points included the aforementioned loss in Tempe to ASU, Myles Jack’s dominant performance against the Huskies in Pasadena, and the 10th straight loss to Oregon.
The break between the Apple Cup has seen Husky Head Coach Steve Sarkisian take the HC job at USC. The Huskies replaced Sark with Chris Petersen, formerly of Boise State. Coach Petersen brings one of the best all-time FBS records to Montlake, as well as two Bear Bryant Coach of the Year awards from his time at Boise. Though Coach Petersen will not coach the Huskies in the Fight Hunger Bowl, he will be in attendance, and has observed some of Washington’s bowl practices.
Why we are going to win:
The Huskies will be coached by former Washington Quarterback, and 2013 QB coach Marques Tuiasosopo. Coach Tui, as he is affectionately known by the team, is a motivator. Despite his lack of experience, he’ll know how to get the team fired up to achieve a 9-win season for the first time since 2000. The Husky offense is powered by one of the top-3 running backs in the country in Bishop Sankey, as well as an ample stable of receivers and a senior quarterback. The Husky Defense vastly improved this season under Justin Wilcox, and Shaq Thompson and Danny Shelton will be hungry to cancel the Cougars’ running game.
It’s Tui’s Time
Brigham Young University Cougars
Bowl Record: 13-17-1
Season Bowl Opponent Score W/L
1974 Fiesta Bowl Oklahoma State 6-16 L
1976 Tangerine Bowl Oklahoma State 21-49 L
1978 Holiday Bowl Navy 16-23 L
1979 Holiday Bowl Indiana 37-38 L
1980 Holiday Bowl SMU 46-45 W
1981 Holiday Bowl Washington State 38-36 W
1982 Holiday Bowl Ohio State 17-47 L
1983 Holiday Bowl Missouri 21-17 W
1984 Holiday Bowl Michigan 24-17 W
1985 Citrus Bowl Ohio State 7-10 L
1986 Freedom Bowl UCLA 10-31 L
1987 All-American Bowl Virginia 16-22 L
1988 Freedom Bowl Colorado 20-17 W
1989 Holiday Bowl Penn State 39-59 L
1990 Holiday Bowl Texas A&M 14-65 L
1991 Holiday Bowl Iowa 13-13 T
1992 Aloha Bowl Kansas 20-23 L
1993 Holiday Bowl Ohio State 21-28 L
1994 Copper Bowl Oklahoma 31-16 W
1996 Cotton Bowl Kansas State 19-15 W
1998 Liberty Bowl Tulane 27-41 L
1999 Motor City Bowl Marshall 3-21 L
2001 Liberty Bowl Louisville 10-28 L
2005 Las Vegas Bowl California 28-35 L
2006 Las Vegas Bowl Oregon 38-8 W
2007 Las Vegas Bowl UCLA 17-16 W
2008 Las Begas Bowl Arizona 21-31 L
2009 Las Begas Bowl Oregon State 44-20 W
2010 New Mexico Bowl UTEP 52-24 W
2011 Armed Forces Bowl Tulsa 24-21 W
2012 Poinsettia Bowl San Diego State 23-6 W
2013 Fight Hunger Bowl Washington ? ?
Historic Bowl Games:
1980 Holiday Bowl - the ‘Miracle Bowl’. BYU came back against SMU in one of the greatest comebacks in NCAA history. With just four minutes left in the game, SMU took a commanding 42-25 lead, and many BYU fans had begun to exit the stadium. Jim McMahon led a furious comeback and scored 3 touchdowns to win the game 46-45. Some believe this was the hardest scenario to complete in the NCAA Football challenges. Full game
1984 Holiday Bowl - BYU entered the ‘84 Holiday Bowl as the #1 team in the nation. Due to the lack of prestige of the Holiday Bowl, many top teams refused to play BYU in the bowl. Eventually the Michigan Wolverines agreed to play, and BYU would win 24-17 to secure their 1st National Title. Full Game
2013 Season Record: 8-4
Date Opponent Result Highlights
8/31 Virginia L 19-16 Video
9/7 Texas W 40-21 Video
9/21 Utah L 20-13 Video
9/27 Middle Tennessee W 37-10 Video
9/4 Utah State W 31-14 Video
10/12 Georgia Tech W 38-14 Video
10/29 Houston W 47-46 Video
10/25 Boise State W 37-20 Video
11/9 Wisconsin L 27-17 Video
10/16 Idaho State W 59-13 Video
11/23 Notre Dame L 23-13 Video
11/30 Nevada W 28-23 Video
11/29 Washington ? ?
Home Away
Key Players this Season:
Taysom Hill: Our Idaho country boy started the season with ridiculously high expectations. BYU fans have been extremely spoiled in our QB recruits, however, Quarterback U has not boasted much passing greatness in the last couple of years. Hill, a Stanford transfer, showed great promise in 2012 but an ACL injury sidelined him after starting only one game. In 2013, his scrambling ability and speed have carried the offense, though many of us are anxious for him to learn better pocket presence and accuracy in the years to come.
Jamaal Williams: If Hill is a little bit country, Williams is a little bit rock n’ roll. The Hill-Williams running duo has not only resulted in a top 10 rushing offense, but an offensive style BYU fans have never seen in Provo. While Hill finished the regular season with 1,211 rushing yards, Williams was just 9 yards behind him (that’s 1,211-9 = 1,202 yards for you Utah fans). As an 18 year-old Sophomore, we expect great things from Williams for at least one more season.
Cody Hoffman: At 6’4”, 210 lb, Hoffman and his sticky fingers have been a consistent go-to target for 3rd downs and other big plays. Though considered to be an NFL prospect after last year, he surprised us all when choosing to return for his Senior season. As a result, he has broken every major receiving record at BYU, including career receptions (passing Dennis Pitta), career receiving TDs (passing Austin Collie) and career receiving yards (passing Austin Collie). This feat has been doubly impressive when considering that his passes have been coming from 3 of BYU’s most inefficient QBs in history.
Biggest Plays this Season:
Beautiful catch by Cody Hoffman in Georgia Tech win.
Taysom Hill TD pass to Skyler Ridley to beat our Cougar bros in Houston.
That whole Texas game was pretty sweet.
Season Summary:
BYU fans were revelling in the Independent status entering the 2013 season. AD Tom Holmoe and staff had put together one of the toughest schedules in school history and had the team travelling to all parts of the country to compete. With Williams, Hoffman, and a healthy Hill returning with NFL prospect Kyle Van Noy, expectations were high. Bronco Mendenhall also hired on several new coaches, including OC Robert Anae. Anae had coached at BYU previously, but this time he returned with new ideas. He implemented a fast-paced offensive scheme which targeted running 100 plays a game.
The offense took a few weeks to gel and was still working out the kinks against opening opponent Virginia. BYU gained national recognition with a 40-21 thumping of Texas in Provo, but they followed that up with a pathetic showing against in-state rival, Utah. After starting the season 1-2, BYU then won 5 in a row! With win #6 they immediately accepted a bid to the Fight Hunger Bowl. Some (delusional) fans thought this was a tad early, claiming we could still make a push for the BCS. This talk was squashed, however, with the very next game in Madison, WI. The badgers gained a respect for Hill and the BYU defense, but ultimately defeated the cougars handily: 27-17. BYU finished the season going 2-1, with their fourth loss coming in the November “Independence Bowl” in South Bend.
Overall, 8 wins on a tough schedule is an excellent season. BYU is one of only 3 schools that won 6 games versus opponents with winning records this year (tOSU and Missouri being the other two). They did not lose any game by more than 10 points, which kept each game exciting until the end. I expect the same for the Fight Hunger Bowl.
Why we are going to win:
I’m a little concerned that UW’s best player is named Bishop. No good Mormon boy is going to tackle a Bishop. However, this is BYU’s 9th straight season going to a bowl game. They have won 6 of their last 8 and their last 4 in a row. HC Bronco Mendenhall knows how to prepare for these games and as DC, always has a defense that will keep BYU close. With 4 weeks of practice since last playing in Reno, Hill and the offense have had time to work out the kinks. Here’s to hoping Hoffman and Van Noy can finish their BYU careers with a bang.
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2013.10.20 20:21 tabledresser [Table] IAmA 911 dispatcher for a county sheriff's office ama

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What's the cutest thing a kid has called you for? Math homework.
Did you help them? Sure did...protect and serve...right?
Are you who I think you are? There is a video on the internet in which a little boy calls 911 for his math homework... It was super adorable. Sorry that's not me.
Didn't expect to do much smiling in this thread. Glad I could make you smile...sometimes we all need one.
That kid will never forget that. :) I hope he remembers he can always call 911 for help.
Kid was just trying to make eleven on the phone... LOL.
In your (almost) 11 years of being an emergency dispatcher, what's the worst situation you've ever heard called over your radio while on shift? I have had 2 instances that come to mind, the first was actually a call from a lady who was having a heart attack and could not give me her address all I could do was listen as she took her last breath and passed away on the phone. The other was a semi truck that colided with a car and the semi driver was pinned in his cab when the fuel tank exploded and nearly killed the man. If it was not for a couple of well trained and dedicated state troopers the man would not be alive.
Wow... That's Sad:( It took a couple weeks for me to get over the lady dying while I was on the phone with her. The truck driver did not take too long cause he was saved just badly burned.
Did you not have e911 in your jurisdiction to at least start units rolling towards what it displayed as the address? Even 11 years ago most jurisdictions had e911 across the us however there are of course exceptions. We are a super small county and did not have and we still do not have E911 i wished we could have it.
A diesel fuel tank really exploded? Sounds like something out of the movies. I guess not exploded but it caught on fire from a leak in the tank and a previous fire but from what the troopers said it went up fast.
I thought that service was paid via a tax on phones? Not exactly we have to pay for the equipment and signs for peoples yards they just provide the ability to use e911.
What is the most memorable instance of where everything turned out alright? We had a 3 or 4 year old boy that went missing near a corn field, looked all over for him for like 10 hours, thought he must have went in the corn field to play, we had all kinds of people searching and his father, who was away for work came home to help and while getting ready found the kid asleep under the bed. Turned out real good for everyone.
My grandparents thought my uncle went missing back when he was 8. He was going fishing and he didn't come back. They called the police and searched all over the city. Where was he? He came back to an empty house 30 minutes after they started the search and fell asleep in his toy box. LOL I have heard of other stories like that.
Many years ago I stayed the night at a friends house, some how I fell asleep under his bed even though I originally was sleeping in the guest room... his mother was freaking out for pretty much the whole night until she saw my foot come from under there, I still don't remember moving under there. Strange
1: How long are your shifts? Can you take frequent breaks? 2: Can you get time off if you have a particularly traumatic call? 3: What is your typical response time? 4: Have you ever been able to later meet anyone who you have assisted with an emergency call? We work 3 eight hour shifts 7a-3p 3p-11p and 11p to 7a we get breaks when officers stop in which is pretty frequent We have a union policy that gives us time off for traumatic calls however no one has taken one since I have started Response times vary depending on where the officer is to the call and for ambulance and fire calls all services are volunteer so that depends on them as well. Our response as far as receiving the call and then dispatching it is just seconds from the time we hang up the phone.
Interesting, thank you! Are you happy with your job, or would you consider moving on in future? It wears on you and somedays I think I can not wait to get out of here and others I love it whole heartedly.
Do you call the officers in if you have to take an urgent break? That was my last favorite part of being sole dispatcher in a small town. "Car 17- dispatch has to shit" - essentially what I felt like I was saying... Unfortunately happens all the time. LOL.
Are there good career optioons open to you as a result of your experience? Yes I think so if I move but with a family its kind of hard to do but not out of the picture.
What was the funniest call you have ever taken? Do you have any running jokes with people? We have a man that calls us 2-3 times a week to complain about people speeding by his house, we have maybe clocked 1 car going fast the rest he just hates because he is a grumpy old man. He claims his eyes are certified radar guns and he can clock cars up to 70 MPH just with his eyes.
We have a few running jokes in house with officers that if the people we talk about found out may get angry.
In Texas, they actually do certify trooper's eyes as radar guns. Weird, I know. Thats funny.
How do you cope with the emotional side of having to listen to what you do? I understand that you need to be professional at work but how do you deal with it when you get home? My wife is a psychologist so that helps but usually i just chat with friends who are all dispatchers or emergency workers. Sometimes i also just replay stuff in my mind and see if I/we could have done it better.
Do the cops always let you know when they are pulling over someone? Yes for officer safety it is policy should they get injured or worse we need to know where they are and who we are looking for so at the very least they give us the plate number, vehicle description, and location of the stop. I am sure a few stops have been made without us knowing but i would say 99% we know about.
Thanks for the answer. My explanation might have been a bit more technical then the system really is because essentially its like your 5 minutes just computerized and allows troopers deputies and other town officers in the area to be able to respond faster if an officer is in distress. The state police use a system like what you spoke of, we are technologically in the 1980's here lol.
It must be a pain especially for a sheriff's department. It is for the most part but after so long you get used to it.
Also, when do you get the largest call volume? In day or night? Summer or winter? etc... I have received one call from a person who spoke chinese and when that happened we used a translator from the state police. Largest volume of calls are Friday through Sunday nights 5p-5a on summer nights.
A full moon? I thought the whole "people acting strangely because its a full moon" thing was like an old wives tale. It's actually true?? I swear to it...we get more calls and more weird calls on full moons.
Do you think it's because people are more likely to be out when there's a full moon? I'm more likely to go walking when there's a full moon out, because of the extra light. That could be I really can not tell why.
What education did you need to become a dispatcher? If it's not too personal, how much do you make (Or in what range is your salary)? I have a high school diploma and some on the job training and tests you need to pass to get hired. Because i work in a small county we do not get paid as well as others but i make roughly $32000 a year with overtime not including benefits.
What? I seriously make more working part time retail? What the fuck America? I love being Canadian... Its crazy I know we have factory jobs around here that pay more than us.
What is a typical day for you? High stress all the time? Any down time? It varies by day and shift but mostly 3-4 calls an hour on average on weekend nights that usually doubles. Of those calls probably half are high stress calls of some kind.
Wow! 3-4 calls per hour? Our center gets 300-400 legit calls for service in a normal shift on the weekend. Higher than that during the week. We are a small county of 8500 residents so its kind of laid back most of the times.
Well...whether 3 calls or 300... it's not an easy job and you need to be able to think quick and adapt to ever changing types of calls. We have an extremely high turnover at our agency. Some can't handle the stress, others just cant do the job. Very true I have probably trained 4 or 5 who did not make it through probation due to stress and not being able to handle calls under pressure.
I called a county 911 before and she would not send an ambulance until I had the exact address. WTF! I didn't live there and the ambulance had a long drive (showed up 25 minutes into the call) but why couldn't she just send them in the right direction to start? That pissed me off and I'm so glad he actually lived (he was unresponsive so I couldn't get the address that way). I was incredibly upset as I was frantically searching for mail or anything to get the address. I had to give up and run to the nearest neighbor to get an address just to get someone to come. Should I complain or talk to them about their policies? I would contact there administrator to file a complaint. We have the same sitiuation some times and always send help towards them until we find out an exact location. Since we have volunteer ambulances sometimes on the best days and depending on where they have to go it still takes 25 mins so we try to get them out fast every minute counts.
Thank you, I will. I had put it all out of my mind when he got out of the hospital but seeing your AMA reminded me of it. Glad I could help.
Still pretty frustrating that you have to threaten to sort out the situation with the careful and skillful use of a baseball bat before they do anything, unfortunately. You said it.
What's the craziest/most intense call you've ever received? Craziest would probably be that the local water tower was on fire...the joke was on me metal and water do not burn easy. LOL.
Most intense was probably the shooting i spoke about earlier where 3 people got shot at a local bar.
When you get 'man with a gun' calls, what's the usual protocol? I've seen dozens of videos where open carry demonstrators are told someone called in, and the usual question from the demonstrator is 'did your dispatch ask what I was doing?'. Is there some type of requirement to dispatch an officer? If someone called in and said he's uncomfortable about a person walking down the street with a toolbelt or a briefcase, would dispatches response be handled similarly or differently than MWAG? We are the last state to approve concealed carry (hint hint from which state I reside) so we do not have to many MWAG calls other than hunters and we respond to those as you would with any MWAG call I guess, and that is usually 2 officers at least when available and approach with weapons unholstered but not pointed at anyone until its needed.
IL? Yes.
Interesting. My new job requires me to spend a great deal of time in rural NW IL. Crazy how different things are from the city or suburbs. It's a whole other world that many are oblivious too (like me before this job). Yes it is, mostly corn fields and highways.
You mentioned you live in a small county. How often do you encounter a caller you know? I would guess 60% of my calls are people i know.
Has anyone ever called 911 for a non-emergency so they can get a ride to the hospital? Yes we have a few people who can not afford gas and call to go to the hospital then usually when they get released they go get groceries and try to find a way back. Usually a police officer will bring them from jurisdiction to jurisdiction until the make it back to their city/town.
What percentage of calls are pranks or ridiculous? (e.g. MacDonalds out of nuggets) Very few maybe 2-3 in my almost 11 yrs as far as pranks but what we do get are a lot "why is the power, gas, cable, or phone out, when is the local parade, when is trick or treat, etc" When i need a cop I do not call the gas company so I am not sure when people need the gas company they call the cops. Sorry for the rant.
How do you respond when someone is prank calling you, but you are not allowed to hang up? In the few times it has happened we knew who it was and they received a complimentary night in jail and a felony charge of false 911 calls.
Did the stay include a continental breakfast? Every stay gets one lol.
So me and my mother got into an argument about this a few months ago because she is a very emotional type person but: when somebody calls is it easier for you to handle if the caller is calm and not screaming at you? Very much so but we are trained to handle calls in all sitiuations and with varying degrees of background noises and emotions.
Thats what she was trying to tell me but I just thought she was crazy cause it wasn't involving us, we just drove past and she freaked out. I was trying to calm her down because the the dispatcher couldnt understand the license plate number she was giving. Its always easier when everyone is calm though.
What info do you give a cop when he pulls someone over and calls in the vehicle description? Do you just take the info, or give him statistics like how many tickets the person has? We read back the owners info and vehicle make, model , and color. We give back ticket info when they run a drivers license along with the persons name and physical description.
How do you calm down after a stressful call? Talk with friends who are mostly cops and dispatchers also and sometimes just replay it in my head to see if I could have done something different.
If you had the option, would you change your career? Why / why not? I am currently trying to become a police officer or career firefighter which ever comes first. If I had no choice i would be happy being a dispatcher.
What advice would you give someone trying to become a dispatcher? Any pointers for the test and interview? Not everyone is cut out for this line of work, so I would say first you can not be too shy because talking is a big part and talking on the radio is just like performing in front of a huge crowd that you cant see, you have to be able to maintain your attention to detail and different tasks, and be able to multi task. I personally did not have to test for my position I kind of just landed here (they needed a dispatcher on short notice and i was first to say yes) as for the interview I would say be completely honest most offices do background checks, lie detector tests, and some do investigations with your relatives and/or friends and references. Be confident no boss wants to put someone in charge of helping people who is not very confident. Always be polite you are most times the first person people talk to when requesting help. And if you have any prior knowledge of dispatching or volunteer work as ems or fire be sure to tell them that, it may be kind of minor to you but it shows that you can talk on the radio and handle stressful sitiuations. All of our dispatchers are fire or ems and some are both. If you can join a volunteer service before applying it could help.
I have dispatched taxicabs for 5 years. Would that help? Would my minor criminal record hurt? The experience would be a plus and the criminal record could hurt our office will not hire anyone with more than a traffic record due to the sensitive info we come across.
So my DUI would probably make me unhireable? Its kind of hard to say here a dui is a traffic conviction unless its felony dui then its criminal. Our policy is no one with a criminal history.
Recently, I remember a paramedic AMA were he mentioned that a lot of his calls were the same people over and over again. Do you find this the case as well? We do, we have a saying that 90% of our problems are brought on by 10% of our community. LOL kinda sad i guess but its true.
Frequent flyers are job security! Yes they are but still annoying most times.
How often do you get prank calls and what are you supposed to do about it? Maybe 3-4 in my career and if we can ID them they get arrested for felony prank 911 calls. We have only caught 1 person so far.
What is the strangest thing you've heard from one of your callers? Had an old woman who after the Chilean miner incident called the night they got out and said that there were Mexican men in her house. I sent the officer and he called later and told me that CNN was replaying the rescue and she woke up during it and thought the miners were robbers in her house.
Are you set up in the sheriff's office or do you have a facility of your own somewhere? We have our dispatch center in 1/4 of the building the other 1/4 is the sheriff's office and secretary's office and the last half is the actual jail.
So it's a one-stop shop for a crazed Rambo. Good to know. Never thought of it like that before.
Of course not. You're sane. :) True...we do have security measures in place but probably not enough for a crazed gunmen.
That's insane... what if you were on the side of the road with no mailboxes nearby? That makes no sense. We get that a lot because we are a rural county and sometimes directions go by landmarks like trees, houses, and such so we sometimes never get an address just "uncle johns old house on so and so road". we do our best with what we got and never not send somebody.
Fellow 911 dispatcher asking the universal question that sets us all apart. Foot pedal or push button for transmitting? We have both, I prefer the foot pedal.
Ah good. Foot pedal users are a rare breed around me lol. I find it easier to type and talk.
Have you ever received a call where you could not understand them at all and you were unable to help them due to a lack of information? Do you know what ended up happening to them? Yes I have but eventually we found them and helped them it took about 2 hrs to locate them and it was for an ambulance call. The person survived.
That's awesome to hear! Good on you guys for the persistence. Persistence paid off.
Funniest moment on the job? When I first started one of the local jokesters called and said the water tower was on fire I started to believe him and almost paged the fire dept until I realised the water tower is metal and full of water.
I'm not sure if this has been asked, but when someone calls in and they're completely panicked, what are some techniques that you've found that helps to calm them down? Have you yourself ever panicked as a result of someone else panicking on the phone? I listen until they quit talking and anything I need to know that they did not say I ask and then reassure them help is coming and give them any instructions that we have for them. Usually thats all it takes. I have never panicked to the point I could not do my job but some calls do get the adrenaline pumping and make you excited.
I can imagine so. I've had to call 911 before for drunk drivers and car accidents. I've always been able to kind of keep my cool depending on the severity of the accident. But every dispatcher I've always talked to has been cool and calm. It's nice to have someone "help the helpers." It helps us help you the calmer you are but even when the caller is not calm we still have a job to do.
Do we still get charged for accidentally calling 911? We never charge anyone a fee for anything and if you mean criminal charges no not if its an accident. The one we made an arest on called 911 and said " f*ck the ___ county police you a$$holes" and then hung up...he lived near the jail so it was a short trip to arrest him.
I thought people got charged for calling 911. Because there was this same ama that said so. But, do you guys know where we are when we call, or do we need to say our address? Most phone companies charge a small 911 tax, but we do not charge you. We do not have enhanced 911 capabilities so we do not know where you are calling from, but most dispatch centers do and can locate you to within feet of where you actually are.
Thanks for answering my questions. No problem.
Glad to hear that no one was severely harmed in the line of duty. On a lighter note, I just noticed you're in rural Illinois from the other comments. Ever had anyone call in to complain of being chased by a prop plane? :) Interesting enough that happened a few months ago.
If I went to Illinois the first thing I would do is go out into a cornfield wearing a suit and hire a crop duster to chase me with his prop plane, just to make an homage to Hitchcock. Apparently I'm not the only one... Our incident involved an unintelligent person and a crop duster...kinda the same though.
What dispatch console do you use? Its old...its a zetron model 4118 console with a model 4115 console expander.
Do you just do radio, phone, mix, any citizen traffic, etc? We do it all 99% of the time there is just one dispatcher on per shift.
I worked for a small city and that's how we did it but most counties around here are large. I liked doing it all but also think specializing in a certain aspect would be good. I agree some of us get better info on calls than others and I think that could make a big difference if dispatcher a only takes calls and dispatcher b only transmits radio stuff.
Agreed, I think jack of all, master of none is not great for that profession so a little speciality would be good. Especially at my place we did records, prisoner watch, lobby traffic, etc etc... Same here we dispatch take calls and walk ins and jail work.
A couple questions.. - Does your office get NG-911 data? I'm curious what the 'most info' you could get when a mobile call comes in (GPS long/lat data, etc), and, if none, do you guys have the ability in some fashion to triangulate where someone is? (I know you probably get tower info, like 'west side of tower x antenna' but has that improved any/will it be?) We have no enhanced 911 capabilities at all we have basic 911 and caller ID boxes. We also have no way to triangulate phone calls or data.
Have you ever had a very mysterious call? Not really.
I'm assuming alarm companies call you frequently for your jurisdiction. What would you change about the way they handle calls or relaying information? Asking because I work for one, sometimes dispatchers seem annoyed I'm calling them. I really have never had a problem with them except some times with addresses which is our county's fault for not having enhanced 911. I wish the alarm company would get a street name instead of PO box or rural route box...not trying to mail them anything. LOL.
I read a story from a long while ago about someone not being sent help. because of budget cuts. Have department financial troubles ever hindered your ability to dispatch and respond to assistance requests? It has not, yet, but our administrator has discussed it recently about maybe not sending police to calls if there is no imediate threat and doing a desk report.
Except modern cars have trunk releases inside them. Besides, does this really ever happen? It has never happened here.
I'm an EMT and I've never yet had a chance to talk to my dispatchers, but what could I do to make your(dispatchers') jobs easier? 2 things I would say is make sure you key the mic a few seconds before talking so no transmission gets cut off and always talk clearly if possible if we can not hear you we can not help you.
Have you ever known any of the callers who reached out to you personally? Yes I would say I know maybe 60% of the callers we deal with its a small county of roughly 8500.
How often do you get kids prank calling? Probably 3-4 times total in my career...so far.
Are you from Night Vale? Nope lol.
Do you get more calls when it's a full moon? That may sound strange to some people...but when I worked at a hospital, it really happened that way. Or so it seemed to us. Sometimes we do and weirder too.
Are the cops racist? Not that I have personally witnessed but I imagine some may be.
I would say this is an older LEO generation routine. The majority of LE departments have mounted dash cams, and some are using body cams. Also prior to the stop, the vehicle's license pate is recorded (if it's available, and providing it's not a false plate). Thats true but almost all the officers I work with state troopers included still do it. It may be a training academy thing the teachers all are old timers pretty much.
It always sounded like an urban legend to me... interesting that it's a real thing. I have never heard of it being used but I have noticed when I do ride alongs they still do it.
Fingerprints can't shoot. I think what he/she meant was so the vehicle can be traced if its located to the officer who could be shot by the person driving.
I am a guy. Haha! And yes. That is what I meant. Duh did not read your username lol...sorry.
This is also done to feel if there is someone moving in the vehicle that cannot be seen. Never thought of that.
There aren't many communities left without e911, it's really a shame. I agree we are the only one within 100 miles here.
Same in Montana from the police officers I've spoken too. They require them to guess the speed of a car within 5 mph. Nice.
I just wanted to thank you to actually answer almost all (if not all) the questions posted here, it's so rare to see nowadays! No problem.
Talk with friends who are mostly cops and dispatchers also and sometimes just replay it in my head to see if I could have done something different. I am currently trying to become a police officer or career firefighter which ever comes first. If I had no choice i would be happy being a dispatcher. Sorry did not see the last part of this question...I would be a firefighter because I have always wanted too and police officer because I see what the guys and gals I work with do and for the most part it is rewarding. I will be honest I would only stay dispatching if I could not do anything else or for 10 more years so I could retire with a full pension.
I can only imagine the things you hear during 911calls as I work trauma lv1 and I see some really heartbreaking things every day It varies from funny to tragic.
"It's already done" I'm sorry I do not get the reference.
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